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    Quad channel is not on the horizon. It's mass sold for more than a year already. Magny Cours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101 View Post
    Fair enough, but imagine in a data center where they could have a few thousand of these sticks and you're saving several KW.
    If the server techs tweaks voltages they could save a ton but if the boards are set "wrong" upon delivery then the power consumption falls within variation expectancy and they don't even notice
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    Quote Originally Posted by K404 View Post
    If the server techs tweaks voltages they could save a ton but if the boards are set "wrong" upon delivery then the power consumption falls within variation expectancy and they don't even notice
    And don't forget you're also battling with the PWM efficiency curve at lower load currents. Sometimes the trade-off nullifies the downstream saving.

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    Laptops (along with all other battery powered devices like phones) and server farms are the reasons for caring about the lower power aspect of new memory technologies. As desktop users happen to comprise the majority of us here, it's unsurprising if few care. Don't mistake that for it being unimportant, however. While there is no large, immediate impact from faster memory these days since there's plenty of bandwidth already, it's also important not to mistake that for it being okay to halt progress. While Amdahl's Law is usually applied to CPUs, I think it also applies just fine to the memory subsystem since that's ultimately a part of the (logical, not physical) CPU. It states that increasing the performance of any one part of the design (*which isn't currently extremely anemic) impacts overall performance very little. This isn't a good reason to not pursue improvement, however, because then you'll run into Obvious's Law which states that if you do nothing at all to improve a system, that system doesn't ever improve.
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