Looking to upgrade/change my watercooling

[acebmxer]

Im looking at upgrading/changing my watercooling loop.

Im looking at...

Yate_Loon_120mm_UV_Blue_D12SH-124UB x3
Black_Ice_GTX_Xtreme_360_Radiator
Danger_Den_DD-GTX470_VGA_Full_Card
EK_Supreme_HF_Universal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block

I have this pump
Swiftech_MCP655_12v_Water_Pump_w_Speed_Control

Should that rad be able to hold up to cooling my i7-920 o.c to 4.5ghz and cool vga which i plan to o.c also. Right now these 2 rads Black Ice GT Stealth 240 X-Flow Radiator and Cooler Master Aquagate Max Radiator are keeping just the cpu cool. It hits 71-72 on cores while running LinX.

I would like to have some head room to be able to push the system further if possible. I would like to try and keep it down to 1 rad if possible. Any other suggestions are always welcomed.

Are these sold as pairs or single?
Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Dual_Rotary_45-Degree_Compression_Fitting
Bitspower_G14_Thread_90-Degree_Rotary

[defect9]

those fittings are singles with two rotating points (thus the 'dual' designation). I'll add more to this post as I go along, but wanted to say that first.

I'm thinking you're gonna need more than one rad for what you're looking to do, unless you intend to go 4x140 or thereabouts, or have some high-speed fans (noisy). I say this mostly because of the 920, which isn't exactly known for running cool (and now it's OCd, plus you'll OC your 470). are you currently running the rad in push or pull, with outside air or case air going into it, and at high/med/low fan speed?

I thought there was a thread on calculating heat dump and approximate rad needed to cool it appropriately. I'm thinking you might want to find that.

[acebmxer]

current settup is with 2 rad on cpu 1 rad has 2 fans just on push other rad has 1 fan on push.

I was looking for some sorta calculator on the web but it was a quick search and i could not find what i was looking for.. I did not look here. If you could find it quickly please post it here.

Those bitspower fittings are sure nice but not for 15$ per fitting that can get to damn expensive.

[Conumdrum]

Here:
http://www.overclockers.com/guide-deltat-water-cooling/

Your looking at CPU250+GPU250 watts. You'll need LOW DT temps unless your room is under 60F all the time. Your CPU is at the limits already. Shoot for 5C DT.

You drop the CPU to 4.2 and get that voltage lower it would help a lot. You NEED 4.5?

A quality 120x3 would just, just barely work. Unless it's this, then get some real screamer fans.
http://skinneelabs.com/hwlabs-gtx-360/4/

[Vapor]

@Conumdrum
250W of heatdump from the CPU into a WC loop just isn't possible below ~1.5v (with a retail Bloomfield). That's an insanely high number to throw out.

It'd be a real stretch to get a GTX470 and an i7 920 to dump more than 350-400W combined.

@acebmxer
Those components definitely look good. Not sure what CPU block you currently use, but your CPU should at least stay the same temperature, even with the GPU added to the loop

If you have room in your budget and your case, getting 3 more fans and going push+pull will be worth up to a degree (and would be less noise than getting faster fans for the same improvement). Also, take a look at Prolimatech PK-1 for a TIM, if you're using something 'old' like MX-2 or AS5, it'll be a noticeable boost for a pretty low price.

[acebmxer]

@vapor So you are saying i should be good with what I picked out? I could use 1 of my current rads just trying to condense everything if possible.

Current cpu block is Swiftech Apogee XT. All current hardware is in sig.

Switching cpu blocks as I dont like the hold on screws that swiftech uses. Currently using TX-2 TIM and seems to work well compared to AS5.

[fatherTime27]

Are you planning on entirely taking your 2 current radiators out of the loop? I would say that new 360 + that 240 would be fine. I am running a 920 at 4.3ghz with just a 240 and a 120 (used to have the gpu in the loop) but the cpu was clocked at 4.0ghz then and never ran into any temp problems.

[fatherTime27]

@Conumdrum
250W of heatdump from the CPU into a WC loop just isn't possible below ~1.5v (with a retail Bloomfield). That's an insanely high number to throw out.

It'd be a real stretch to get a GTX470 and an i7 920 to dump more than 350-400W combined.

@acebmxer
Those components definitely look good. Not sure what CPU block you currently use, but your CPU should at least stay the same temperature, even with the GPU added to the loop

If you have room in your budget and your case, getting 3 more fans and going push+pull will be worth up to a degree (and would be less noise than getting faster fans for the same improvement). Also, take a look at Prolimatech PK-1 for a TIM, if you're using something 'old' like MX-2 or AS5, it'll be a noticeable boost for a pretty low price.

Have I been living under a rock? Is AS5 that outdated now? Its all I have been using for years, might have to reconsider if you think it will make that much of a difference.

[m0r7if3r]

Have I been living under a rock? Is AS5 that outdated now? Its all I have been using for years, might have to reconsider if you think it will make that much of a difference.

Yea, it's pretty old in the tooth...some MX-2 or MX-4 is always a good option

[fatherTime27]

Yea, it's pretty old in the tooth...some MX-2 or MX-4 is always a good option

Definitely going to need to order some new tim while my comp is apart over spring break. Does the indigo xtreme really live up to all the hype?

[m0r7if3r]

http://skinneelabs.com/indigo-xtreme/ check it out yourself

[acebmxer]

Are you planning on entirely taking your 2 current radiators out of the loop? I would say that new 360 + that 240 would be fine. I am running a 920 at 4.3ghz with just a 240 and a 120 (used to have the gpu in the loop) but the cpu was clocked at 4.0ghz then and never ran into any temp problems.

Yes I would like to get remove both current rads and run the cpu and gpu off 1 NEW rad... If 1 rad what ever size wont do the work then I will run 2 rads.

[fatherTime27]

http://skinneelabs.com/indigo-xtreme/ check it out yourself

Wow great review thank you. The x23 seems to perform similarly now which one to choose comes into play

[fatherTime27]

Yes I would like to get remove both current rads and run the cpu and gpu off 1 NEW rad... If 1 rad what ever size wont do the work then I will run 2 rads.

Well its always nice having the other radiators sitting around . I see your running a 590 so the new radiator is going to be external correct? Off the rear 120 exhaust slot?

[acebmxer]

Sorry i forgot to update the case in my sig.... The case is currently a NZXT Phantom. Rad or rads will be external might not be hanging off the rear 120 exhaust.

[fatherTime27]

Sorry i forgot to update the case in my sig.... The case is currently a NZXT Phantom. Rad or rads will be external might not be hanging off the rear 120 exhaust.

I see. Well I don't understand why you wouldn't want to put both radiators in the loop if you have both why not use both?

[acebmxer]

I am using both rads currently but they are only cooling the cpu. I am trying to buy 1 rad to replace the 2 i have but would like it to cool the cpu and the gpu.

The problem is the 2 current rads I have are really thin rads So i was thinking the rad i have listed in the OP being thicker and being 3 fans vs 2 fans would be good enough.

I dont want to use 2 rads if I dont have to. I if I do then Yes I can use one of my current rads. I just know they wount handle the extra heat from adding the gpu into the loop.

[Vapor]

I think you'll be fine with using just the GTX360

[fatherTime27]

I am using both rads currently but they are only cooling the cpu. I am trying to buy 1 rad to replace the 2 i have but would like it to cool the cpu and the gpu.

The problem is the 2 current rads I have are really thin rads So i was thinking the rad i have listed in the OP being thicker and being 3 fans vs 2 fans would be good enough.

I dont want to use 2 rads if I dont have to. I if I do then Yes I can use one of my current rads. I just know they wount handle the extra heat from adding the gpu into the loop.

Ah gotcha. Well if the radiator is going external anyways why not just go with a 480 just to be safe?

[Conumdrum]

@Conumdrum
250W of heatdump from the CPU into a WC loop just isn't possible below ~1.5v (with a retail Bloomfield). That's an insanely high number to throw out.

Thanks Vapor, I have used that for quite a while. I agree it's not perfect, It's my assumtion from an early 965 or so, with room to spare. Skinnee also thought it was a bit high, but within reason for extra cooling. Some have silly high ambients and other issues.

What do you think is more reasonable for a overclocked chip with these newer blocks? I know the 2600k even at 4.2 are't running as hot as older chips.

About the GPU's a 480 is at 300 watts or so under load. Thats watts, and not under Ln2 etc. I figured a 470 would be good at 250, again giving some headroom. I know a FC block doesn't recover all the heat off the board, and not all of it is dissipated as heat.

Getting a bit more rad for quiet operation is more my way of figuring things.

You guys are the real pros, so any guidance would be appreciated.

I'd rather be higher than lower, and the ops temps are poor.

[acebmxer]

Thanks Vapor, I have used that for quite a while. I agree it's not perfect, It's my assumtion from an early 965 or so, with room to spare. Skinnee also thought it was a bit high, but within reason for extra cooling. Some have silly high ambients and other issues.

What do you think is more reasonable for a overclocked chip with these newer blocks? I know the 2600k even at 4.2 are't running as hot as older chips.

About the GPU's a 480 is at 300 watts or so under load. Thats watts, and not under Ln2 etc. I figured a 470 would be good at 250, again giving some headroom. I know a FC block doesn't recover all the heat off the board, and not all of it is dissipated as heat.

Getting a bit more rad for quiet operation is more my way of figuring things.

You guys are the real pros, so any guidance would be appreciated.

Ok so I think we are all saying I should be good with 1 360 and have a little head room left for benching?

I'd rather be higher than lower, and the ops temps are poor.

Are you saying with my current settup my temps should be lower then what they are now?