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    Quote Originally Posted by SeMbEr View Post
    Gelid GC1
    I ordered also this paste yesterday... so we can compare it to the other ones.

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    GC-Extreme is very good, that is what we used in MOA EMEA Finals. We did ~1450MHZ in 3DMark 2011 with 1.5v and -130, the paste looses contact is you go lower. Without IHS, ofc
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    thanks matose...i tried that too but it freezes early for me...maybe i try again. it has very high thermal conductivity thats for sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by matose View Post
    GC-Extreme is very good, that is what we used in MOA EMEA Finals. We did ~1450MHZ in 3DMark 2011 with 1.5v and -130, the paste looses contact is you go lower. Without IHS, ofc
    So lower temps then -130°C are not good without HS in your case?
    Which pot?

    I think we have to test the GC on a HS-less card.

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    The problem is that the paste looses the contact (Freeze is good until about 150-155 C from what I tested on 990X), it does the same on CPU.
    The pot is Ryba's fat, I have other paste to try but no time and no LN2
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    Hey guys,

    this weekend we selected some further experience with thermal paste.

    We tryed the Gelid GC Extreme and on the first run we have seen how crazy this paste is working! Damn the heat transmission is so good that we can run same clocks on 10 to 15° higher temps. Crazy!
    But lower then -150° on the Pot Base and it cracks... damn! can someone give us a mix of Gelids heat transmission and Freeze cracking point? Is Thermal Pasta mixing possible?

    Freeze just cracks if you are running full pot, so you need to hold the tempereatures near to the full pot point but never fill it up realy.

    For our runs we used the Freeze coz it is better controlable.
    Unfortunatly the Shin Etsu not arrived here in time so we need to test it another day.
    And we had no time to test the Gelid on a Heatspreader less card but from the behavior on the with HS Card it could be that the Gelid is the Holy grail of HS less benching.

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    So for those crazy runs, you used Freeze at.. -170 .. -180c, and IHS still in place?
    Didnt the stock shin-itsu "crack"?

    anyway, congratulations on those great scores guys. Really well done!
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    -150 to -160° with Freeze and IHS still in place

    now we dont have the shin but soon we test

    thanks man

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    He means didn't the stock paste between die and IHS crack

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    Quote Originally Posted by ME4ME View Post
    Didnt the stock shin-itsu "crack"?
    We noticed no problems there....
    The two other crazy cards also had not this kind of problem.

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    yea i also want to know that?

    the paste between core and ihs does it never crack? :P

    edit: aah thanks loopy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabauterman View Post
    We tryed the Gelid GC Extreme and on the first run we have seen how crazy this paste is working! Damn the heat transmission is so good that we can run same clocks on 10 to 15° higher temps. Crazy!
    Told you !
    After -130 the paste don't crack but freezes and looses the good thermal transfer it has. Try not to go over -130 and maximize your clocks there, you'll be surprised !
    Yes, it works great without IHS as I said couple of posts ago ...
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    Happy to hear this from you m8s.

    Someone tested the Arctic Ceramique 2?

    This new compund, by datasheet, can work untill @ -150°C... will be true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matose View Post
    Told you !
    After -130 the paste don't crack but freezes and looses the good thermal transfer it has. Try not to go over -130 and maximize your clocks there, you'll be surprised !
    Yes, it works great without IHS as I said couple of posts ago ...
    mate it cracks, load and clear like Freeze we will test soon again for now we need a little OC cooldown

    Quote Originally Posted by canna1988 View Post
    Happy to hear this from you m8s.

    Someone tested the Arctic Ceramique 2?

    This new compund, by datasheet, can work untill @ -150°C... will be true?
    next on the "to order" list but Ceramique 1 sucks, bad to apply and no good heat transmission

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    http://www.aquatuning.fi/product_inf...at---4-8g.html

    Could that be good enough to test? Havent ever heard about that paste before..
    Atleast its damn high prised

    Try to mix that gelid and freeze, it could be pretty perfect if ur lucky Cant find that OCZ freeze from finland so i have to test that Zalman and revoltec diamond atleast.
    Arctic silver is bad in gpu's? I have used that on phenom overclockind with fullpot many hours without problems, but maybe thats lilbit different situation
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    the thing with phenom and any other previous -180 benching is that the core didnt crack because the heat coming from load source was not allot. But the 580's make so much heat the difference in core and pot temp is big enough to create the crack.
    I think thats how it works

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    Yeah, i tough so too and thats why i said that its lilbit different story with CPU :P
    And i have only slim pot here so its gonna make things much harder too -.-
    I would be happy even with 1300-1350MHz gpu clocks with that pot. Il have some results on weekend when mine LN2 comes finally.
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    Hi guys what about MX-2 and also between HS and core? or it's better to live the sinetsu i don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aristidis View Post
    Hi guys what about MX-2 and also between HS and core? or it's better to live the sinetsu i don't know.
    MX-2 is the Worst we tryed! take it to the Bin! In our comparison from bad to good paste MX-2 is the worst!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabauterman View Post
    mate it cracks, load and clear like Freeze we will test soon again for now we need a little OC cooldown



    next on the "to order" list but Ceramique 1 sucks, bad to apply and no good heat transmission
    Hi,

    I have the ceramique 2 here, but no time and ln2 for test it, maybe i can do something in the week end, but not sure about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabauterman View Post
    MX-2 is the Worst we tryed! take it to the Bin! In our comparison from bad to good paste MX-2 is the worst!
    Thanks but for the moment i haven't any better one, only a very small amount of OCZ freeze. I think that I'm waiting for EVGA frostbite.
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    evga frostbite you can buy from evga store

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeMbEr View Post
    http://www.aquatuning.fi/product_inf...at---4-8g.html

    Could that be good enough to test? Havent ever heard about that paste before..
    Atleast its damn high prised

    Try to mix that gelid and freeze, it could be pretty perfect if ur lucky Cant find that OCZ freeze from finland so i have to test that Zalman and revoltec diamond atleast.
    Arctic silver is bad in gpu's? I have used that on phenom overclockind with fullpot many hours without problems, but maybe thats lilbit different situation
    Before i Used the Innovation Cooling Diamond 7, and it worked well with HS (1500 MHz Vantage), but sucks without HS (1350 MHz all benchmarks)

    Don' t know if the Innovation Cooling Diamond 24 Carat is better...
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    24 Carat is just bigger tube, that's all. There are some tricks for benching without IHS, I'll share after I'm sure I'm not wrong!
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    Tested alot of stuff the last couple of days. Tried the Gelid Extreme thermalpaste, and it worked surprisingly good. Actually, it works better then Freeze, atleast at the same temperature.
    Also without IHS, it works fine. Seems it sticks better directly to the silicon than other pastes do. Problem is tho -as mentioned-, it can only handle -130.

    All in all im reaching about the same clocks we did at MOA (1400 to 1450). So (-120 / without IHS / Gelid Extreme) = (-150 / IHS in place / OCZ Freeze).
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