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    Yeah, i agree, the MP demo is pretty crap. Unlike other MP games like TF2, it's hard to see any opponent, even if they're not cloaked - they just look like part of the scenery unless they move. You can tell it's designed for console play rather than PC play - you can't turn fast enough, you can't move fast enough, your suit energy drains all the time in armour mode, unlike the original where it just drained when you were actually HIT by something, the visuals were impressive, but not much point when you're panicking your ass off trying to avoid 4 uber l33t gamers from chasing you down in cloak mode and opening fire on you when you're cornered...

    I'll try the single player demo, but i don't expect much. I can overlook the graphics aspect, because with a single 6850, it runs gorgeously at a decent framerate, but if the gameplay sucks...well...it's not worth buying really, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai Robinson View Post
    Yeah, i agree, the MP demo is pretty crap. Unlike other MP games like TF2, it's hard to see any opponent, even if they're not cloaked - they just look like part of the scenery unless they move. You can tell it's designed for console play rather than PC play - you can't turn fast enough, you can't move fast enough, your suit energy drains all the time in armour mode, unlike the original where it just drained when you were actually HIT by something, the visuals were impressive, but not much point when you're panicking your ass off trying to avoid 4 uber l33t gamers from chasing you down in cloak mode and opening fire on you when you're cornered...

    I'll try the single player demo, but i don't expect much. I can overlook the graphics aspect, because with a single 6850, it runs gorgeously at a decent framerate, but if the gameplay sucks...well...it's not worth buying really, is it?
    Can't turn fast enough? Seems to work pretty well as you can see here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etfK2moRRwo

    Although I do notice a tinge of input lag even with Vsync off.
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    The demo itself runs great, I thought the graphics were nice but too bad its based on a console port with "dumbed down graphics". I just wish they would increase the capacity of players in a server, 12 just isn't really enough. And I want a deathmatch option too, not really into teamwork.
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    crytek released a patch for the mp-demo.

    Changelog:
    * "Press Start to Begin" has been changed to "Press Enter to Begin" on the main menu ->
    * Ping changes in server browser - no ping for anyone now (all 0) ->
    * Fixed crash if getting force disconnected from a dedicated server (although the force disconnect issue has been resolved anyway)
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    I find it strange since this new update that almost all servers have no people on it, is this a bug or did everybody get bored of the demo already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono Detector View Post
    I find it strange since this new update that almost all servers have no people on it, is this a bug or did everybody get bored of the demo already?
    Well its a demo after all, and judging by the comments here a pretty bad one. So why would anyone keep playing it? Not to mention bother updating it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    Changelog:
    * "Press Start to Begin" has been changed to "Press Enter to Begin" on the main menu ->
    http://winfuture.de/news,61870.html
    Best trolling ever.... how about removing that screen at all.

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    DX11 only added later ? I'll pass for now then .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    Best trolling ever.... how about removing that screen at all.
    i never really unterstood why these screens exist in the first place. why do i have to press a key to get to the menu?! this is such a useless step - why not just show the menu when it has finished loading?
    with saying that i don't even mean pc only in particular. even on consoles this makes absolutely no sense at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    i never really unterstood why these screens exist in the first place. why do i have to press a key to get to the menu?! this is such a useless step - why not just show the menu when it has finished loading?
    with saying that i don't even mean pc only in particular. even on consoles this makes absolutely no sense at all.
    Developers used to use this screens to allow input of hidden commands etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    i never really unterstood why these screens exist in the first place. why do i have to press a key to get to the menu?! this is such a useless step - why not just show the menu when it has finished loading?
    with saying that i don't even mean pc only in particular. even on consoles this makes absolutely no sense at all.
    Afaik it originates for the arcade games, if you look at games that are developed for pc only in mind they don't come with such screen anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Maño View Post
    Developers used to use this screens to allow input of hidden commands etc.
    Lol you mean publicity and in general it's where the intro movies will start to run.
    But yes it's so " arcade" mode ... it remind me the good old arcade games box in early 80's: " Press start or Insert coin for start "..

    Most funny is i will never let this screen run on a gpu for a long time, before start a party, it show me something as 9000fps without v-sync .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    Lol you mean publicity and in general it's where the intro movies will start to run.
    No, I don't mean publicity but things like this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code

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    WTH ? Why is the game DX 9 only ? These guys are going backwards. It will just be patched to DX11 and that's it ? Its been a while since DX11 was out, why not make the game DX11 native. The game would have been a monster hit if it was DX11 native. I mean, all PC gamers are craving for a game like that. Show us the candies, dammit !
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    i have decided to them the benefit of the doubt that this demo was rush due to leaked pc single player "demo".

    but it wouldnt surprise me if the retail has no DX10 nor DX11. i mean at least give us pc gamers DX10....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboDiv View Post
    WTH ? Why is the game DX 9 only ? These guys are going backwards. It will just be patched to DX11 and that's it ? Its been a while since DX11 was out, why not make the game DX11 native. The game would have been a monster hit if it was DX11 native. I mean, all PC gamers are craving for a game like that. Show us the candies, dammit !
    Why should they care about "PC gamers" when console guys are much bigger market?

    Why not make a native Linux build? YOU KNOW US LINUX USERS DESERVE SOME EYE CANDY DAMNIT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmatory View Post
    Why should they care about "PC gamers" when console guys are much bigger market?

    Why not make a native Linux build? YOU KNOW US LINUX USERS DESERVE SOME EYE CANDY DAMNIT!!!

    Why? Because the lead designer and CEO of crytke pretty much said it will be the best verion for pc and console development will not influence the pc game...

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    You do not know to read betwen the lines.Console will not influence the PC game.PC game will have the best version(the XBOX360 one,wich is quite better than PS3 so he was not liying,PC have the best version after all).
    Nothing new under the sun.Ea is a cash maker.And the wonder of wonders called Crysis did not have even sli support when it get in the market.And was a true native DirectX 9 game.They only touched a bit shaders to make it DirectX 10.
    Lucky us that Crysis 2 is the worst FPS of the year.Yes i did not expect so much of it.Homefront seems moore significant this year.And rage about to get out too.And we can talk about sweet surprises as BulletStorm...so nothing bad in Crysis2.Just another EA release.Hyped,technically decepcionant and money maker for sure.but renember those people are not the red Cross,,,they are in it for the money

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    Forget DX11. The game looks amazing:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QtAke7i_I

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    crytek released a patch for the mp-demo.

    Changelog:
    * "Press Start to Begin" has been changed to "Press Enter to Begin" on the main menu ->
    * Ping changes in server browser - no ping for anyone now (all 0) ->
    * Fixed crash if getting force disconnected from a dedicated server (although the force disconnect issue has been resolved anyway)
    * Account creation now works properly
    * G35 headset fix now implemented
    * People not able to sign in with certain characters such as "-" or "numbers" in their username, now can

    http://winfuture.de/news,61870.html
    Sorry account creation is still broken
    I had to create a fake one as it would not work with my e-mail address

    Anyway Crysis 2 Demo, Hmm Skyline map can be fun for a bit, but it reminds me so much of Unreal Tournament 2004/3 it practically is the same game.

    My major annoyances are:

    1) No graphics options?!? Perhaps I am stupid or something, but I cannot seem to find where I can alter shadow quality, texture quality etc. I would like to tweak to see what is the best compromise between performance and image quality.

    2) FSAA, where is the FSAA option I like 2XFSAA @ 1920*1200 (more if my GTX295 can handle it).

    3) FSAA, jagglies on some levels are unacceptable again where oh where is the FSAA option.

    4) Input seems a bit.....incorrect. Where is my crouch toggle? Oh wait it is not Ctrl for some reason it is C.

    5)Ahhh E is NOT lean.... it engages the cloak.

    6) How on earth do I prone ?!

    7) Account issues as mentioned above, seems such a fundamental bug! Why does my EA Master Account or Mycrysis account NOT WORK!?!

    8) Press Enter to Begin As Hornet correctly pointed out, it is a very poor attempt at covering up this games console roots.

    9) X-Box buttons pop up now and then. I had completed a 3 round session crash site and was requested to press GREEN A BUTTON to continue

    10) Crysis just seems to be so much better than this as it feels more PC orientated....because of the configuration options and the way the controls are preconfigured and little custom mapping is required. Crysis 2 is premapped really weird. Or am I the only person here who prefers to use Ctrl to crouch!?

    Here endeth the rant.

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    Crouch on c makes a sense since you can't do the powerslide correctly if its on ctrl... cause to perform the power slide, you need to sprint (left shift) and then press crouch... quite hard when both is done with the same finger...

    Lean was already cut in crysis wars and now also prone is gone.

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    Why can't you reconfigure the keys to your preference on the PC version? I don't have the demo installed so cannot speak from personal experience but a big WTF to EA/Crytek if you can't do this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnZS View Post
    2) FSAA, where is the FSAA option I like 2XFSAA @ 1920*1200 (more if my GTX295 can handle it).
    Crysis2Demo.exe +r_FSAA=2

    The demo completely left customization out of the ingame menu, so you have to deal with these as launch parameters.

    Other interesting parameters: +i_mouse_accel=0 +i_mouse_smooth=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboDiv View Post
    WTH ? Why is the game DX 9 only ? These guys are going backwards. It will just be patched to DX11 and that's it ? Its been a while since DX11 was out, why not make the game DX11 native. The game would have been a monster hit if it was DX11 native. I mean, all PC gamers are craving for a game like that. Show us the candies, dammit !
    Battlefield 3 will be native DX11

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaddMuppet View Post
    Battlefield 3 will be native DX11
    So no Battlefield 3 for consoles?

    Every game developer says the same thing... "the PC version won't be a port, the development of PC and console versions are totally separate, it will rock on the PC, etc etc"

    Even friggin' BIOSHOCK was supposed to have a "native" PC version with "tight controls" and a completely different development process... look what we ended up with, one of the PORTEST games in the world.

    Don't believe the developers. Of course they don't want you to know that the game will be written for 7800GT level GPUs and will not flex the shiny new GPU you paid $300 for.

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