AMD Fusion APU Llano in a Multi-Tasking Technology Demonstration

[stuffme]

If bulldozer is as impressive as this, makes me wonder how deep AMD is this time not having proper amount of manufacturing capacity?

[god_43]

If bulldozer is as impressive as this, makes me wonder how deep AMD is this time not having proper amount of manufacturing capacity?

.......it is not a problem.

[clayton]

Looks like a great solution for laptop!

[flippin_waffles]

This is the Sandy Bridge w/ IGP vs. Llano w/ APU. It's an apples to apples comparison. People are complaining that Intel chip has a weak IGP. So? The AMD system is drawing less power and it's running more smoothly. Llano is a multi-threading monster!

For that reason, AMD really seems like they've got the upper hand in the mobile market. I wonder how Intel will respond to this... I mean, Intel hates being the underdog, but AMD seems to have them whipped in laptop performance.

BTW, I was thinking about getting a new laptop soon... not anymore. I'll wait.

+1

Maybe review sites should actually do reviews on usability and feel as well as outdated x86 benchmarks that really don't mean much (aside from the employment they generate to coders of course!). Typical usage scenarios would be a good place to start.

[sxs112]

i7-2630QM belong to FCPGA 988 how to install to ASUS P8H67-M ???

[tbone8ty]

so what is the gpu HD 6620M comparable to?

[Sn0wm@n]

Llano sounds more and more powerfull

[FlanK3r]

next video

[Manicdan]

next video

not sure what you mean

its kinda just a review of the video we saw

[Aerwidh]

Llano looks like it could end up being quite a nice piece of tech

[alpha0ne]

My old Dell Latitude D420 (12") is getting nervous

Llano with a 12~13" screen here I come

[Dresdenboy]

Tom's Hardware has a 2 page article about the demo at CeBit:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...idge,2883.html

[kuroikenshi]

so what is the gpu HD 6620M comparable to?

unsure, but I can tell you for a fact that zaccate's apu HD6310 is surprised me by leaps and bounds, I was not expecting to be able to 3 x 1920 monitors... but it doing it without any issues. If Zaccate is in any way shape or form a way of measuring how llano will perform, I will sell my 2600k and jump camps

[Nintendork]

I thought they were going to call it HD6500, now it's HD6620M. Do this mean that it will be faster than the HD6570M?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Rad...M.41479.0.html

HD6500M --> Redwood core 400SP
HD6600M --> Turks core 480SP

And some hype that lowish SB IGP xDD. What will they say to this monster of an IGP. I can tell that this is more impressive than 690G/x1250 --> 780G/HD3200 (3x faster).

[Glow9]

I'm curious if this is what their driver team has been working on.

[[XC] hipno650]

I'm curious if this is what their driver team has been working on.

i really hope it is because this could live and die by drivers.....

overall tho I am really impressed with what they were able to pull off and it look like a great notebook solution but I am concerned about a few things.

first 3 of the 4 tests they ran at the same time were GPU based and not CPU based. which is great if thats what you using your laptop for but the majority of apps still have little to no GPU acceleration in them. I would personally be more concerned about CPU performance in a laptop and I am sure most people would be as well. I am willing to bet SB is still faster then Lano in CPU based tasks but im sure the gap has been narrowed.

it seems they have dumped a TON of effort into the GPU which is cooler but personally I could care less as I will never use an integrated GPU in one of my computers.... im really impressed and things are looking really good (for notebooks especially) but I just hope BD can bring the heat for desktop brute CPU speed.... otherwise I will never buy one for myself....

[Hornet331]

I thought they were going to call it HD6500, now it's HD6620M. Do this mean that it will be faster than the HD6570M?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Rad...M.41479.0.html

HD6500M --> Redwood core 400SP
HD6600M --> Turks core 480SP

And some hype that lowish SB IGP xDD. What will they say to this monster of an IGP. I can tell that this is more impressive than 690G/x1250 --> 780G/HD3200 (3x faster).

Doubtfull since it even hasn't half of the bandwidth available.. maybe in 1024x786 or close to 1280x1024 but without aa. Everything higher will be bandwidth starved.

But it will be the most powerfull igp we have seen up to date.

[Lightman]

1.8GHz quad Llano is not ground shattering but I do hope this is not the highest end SKU for laptops.
Of course Llano will have nice Turbo boost, but compared to 45nm AMD laptop offering I expect clocks to be around 2.3-2.6GHz for a quad with GPU on die [35W].

[spicypixel]

I can start to see why Apple might be all over this like heatrash, just due to their multimedia focus. They probably hate dealing with intel drivers on the OSX platform as much as the rest of us

[Manicdan]

1.8GHz quad Llano is not ground shattering but I do hope this is not the highest end SKU for laptops.
Of course Llano will have nice Turbo boost, but compared to 45nm AMD laptop offering I expect clocks to be around 2.3-2.6GHz for a quad with GPU on die [35W].

i think this will all come down to turbo,

the demo according to toms hardware topped out at 55W, so i think that means its a 45W tdp chip max, half of that for a cpu and half for the gpu, your looking at no more than 25W for a 1.8ghz quad, if they want to use the rated specs as the baseline speed

who knows if the cpu will be able to turbo up an extra 500+mhz on all cores when the gpu is idle. i think it needs to, otherwise the whole apu design is feeling very premature.

also considering that its a apu, does this mean AMD will have different TDP bins? like up to 140W for the desktop version, that would allow for nearly 4ghz on all cpu cores, WHILE the gpu is running at 900+mhz, then offer a 95w version which can do the same, but only while the other half is idling.

[duploxxx]

I thought they were going to call it HD6500, now it's HD6620M. Do this mean that it will be faster than the HD6570M?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Rad...M.41479.0.html

HD6500M --> Redwood core 400SP
HD6600M --> Turks core 480SP

And some hype that lowish SB IGP xDD. What will they say to this monster of an IGP. I can tell that this is more impressive than 690G/x1250 --> 780G/HD3200 (3x faster).

well according to mobile numbering that seems to be there idea, in some cases might be true

i think this will all come down to turbo,

the demo according to toms hardware topped out at 55W, so i think that means its a 45W tdp chip max, half of that for a cpu and half for the gpu, your looking at no more than 25W for a 1.8ghz quad, if they want to use the rated specs as the baseline speed

who knows if the cpu will be able to turbo up an extra 500+mhz on all cores when the gpu is idle. i think it needs to, otherwise the whole apu design is feeling very premature.

also considering that its a apu, does this mean AMD will have different TDP bins? like up to 140W for the desktop version, that would allow for nearly 4ghz on all cpu cores, WHILE the gpu is running at 900+mhz, then offer a 95w version which can do the same, but only while the other half is idling.

TDP calculation seems right on it, not sure how much it can turbo more when active gpu but it will do more turbo then you think

now everybody can start wondering if this is really there top bin but in the end they should have compared it against the 2635QM, that has a whopping 100mhz GPU power more .....

Does anyone know how much turbo is possible on the 2630QM with all cores active from the 2.0 base clock and 650 gpu? it will probably be a mixture.... I am sure that if they would only run cpu bench it would have killed the LIano just by its turbo and HT.

[JumpingJack]

Does anyone know how much turbo is possible on the 2630QM with all cores active from the 2.0 base clock and 650 gpu? it will probably be a mixture.... I am sure that if they would only run cpu bench it would have killed the LIano just by its turbo and HT.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i...I7-2630QM.html

Looks like 2.6 Ghz will all cores loaded.

[vitaminc]

Businesses by far do that. Out company buys Dell Core i5 and i7 PCs with no discrete graphics all the time. Businesses need CPU power over gaming buddy. Llano adds the possibility of bringing good OpenCL performance into the business world in an affordable way. It is a great product.

And business PC runs FF14 as well...

AMD was run by crooks that lie and deceive. Their product demos were as good as vaporware.

Not sur how its changed after Meyer and Hax0r Ruiz were ousted but my guess their cancer cells are still there.

[Johnny87au]

@duploxx iirc 2.6-2.8 should hit the spot with turbo.,.

[geo]

I'm glad to see AMD innovations hitting the market soon. Zacate already has and would make an epic platform to build a CarPC, HTPC + FileServer ...
with CPU speeds becoming irrelevant after a certain limit (due to lack of software and Quick Sync) and same with GPU with gaming at 1080p - the timing is ripe for a powerful x86 SOC (with wifi, bluetooth, good sound chip). performance advantage Intel will most likely continue to have will become irrelevant in consumer space.

ATI is trying to do that features which start off as a niche but will be mainstream soon. I know three people who bought their first ATI card just for eyefinity.