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    AMD Hudson+Llano



    4x USB3, only 6x Sata 6Gb !

    http://www.donanimhaber.com/anakart/...bir-cipset.htm

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    What a BS comparison

    Are we talking about APU? Then P67 is the wrong candidate.
    Are we talking about Desktop? The AMD Southbridge has RAID5.
    This is just full of mistakes -> worthless

    Edit: If it's about the best desktop in 2011 then where is the Intel Z67 chipset?
    Edit2: You are right - the Z68 chipset (not Z67)
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    1/the best will be Zambezi ,-)
    2/Z67 doesnt exist, only Z68
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    Quote Originally Posted by mibo View Post
    What a BS comparison

    Are we talking about APU? Then P67 is the wrong candidate.
    Are we talking about Desktop? The AMD Southbridge has RAID5.
    This is just full of mistakes -> worthless

    Edit: If it's about the best desktop in 2011 then where is the Intel Z67 chipset?
    Edit2: You are right - the Z68 chipset (not Z67)
    what else is there to compare with the CPU+GPU embedded systems and there chipsets

    There is also a hudson D2 they don't mention which doesn't have 6GB/s and USB3

    and No there is no R5 support on Hudson, that is only for the SB950

    very good from AMD to introduce USB3 and all 6G sata .... talking about future devices
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    4 USB 3 ports and the integrated SD card controller are some huge advantages in the OEM market; too bad they didn't integrate an ethernet controller...
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    A big win with Clock Gen and SATA3 (assuming it performs well).
    The lack of Gbit LAN and RAID5 is quite lame, though.
    And USB 1.1, what for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    A big win with Clock Gen and SATA3 (assuming it performs well).
    The lack of Gbit LAN and RAID5 is quite lame, though.
    And USB 1.1, what for?
    mobile parts; i guess that some OEMs want it for their input devices and they simply carried it over to their desktop parts
    SATA3 was already present in SB8xx for several months; the biggest win is native usb 3.0 support

    lack of raid 5 is not as lame as lack of any raid on my H55 board, additionally SB850 raid 5 performance is lacking
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    I don't get the point of this comparison. Every second line is just plain wrong, as far as what will be available as a whole platform.


    For example:
    - I know Intel boards will end up supporting IR, SD cards, PCI slots, etc. They did 10 years ago, and I'm sure they haven't dropped the ability to support them via add-on chips, which is the way it's always been done.
    - I know the AMD boards will support 10/100/1000 network connections

    It may not all be on-CPU, but it will be there, and I don't think it matters whether any of those features are on-CPU or not... there's just not a lot of performance difference one way or another. I mean, when was the last time you said "Dang, my SD card controller isn't on-die, if only it was I'd use an SD card as a boot device or gaming drive!" or "Man, I wish my IR detector was processed on-die, then I'd get killer IR speeds!!!1". Never.
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    It doesnt concern singe users that much, but for OEMs its a big thing, the more stuff you get on the baseline chips, less you spend on additional chips, cost wise, engineering wise, power wise.

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    The native USB 3.0 support is by itself a big win.
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    Let's see if TRIM is fully supported...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Let's see if TRIM is fully supported...
    Could you elaborate on this subject. In my understanding its more of a OS dependent operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanical Man View Post
    Could you elaborate on this subject. In my understanding its more of a OS dependent operation.
    Support is always a three-pronged approach: OS, driver and hardware. Currently, AMD seems to have on-again / off-again TRIM support built into its AHCI driver stack. I know the current 1.2.1.275 AHCI driver has been reported to have several issues with TRIM and some other functions.

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    Is this doesn't support Ethernet then this is pathetic, it has too though, it's a must with every chipset..

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny87au View Post
    Is this doesn't support Ethernet then this is pathetic, it has too though, it's a must with every chipset..
    Is it?

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    I remember reading in the past that the only Hudson FCH that isn't going to have Ethernet MAC was the M1 and D1, the rest of them should have it.
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    ...aand stupid donanimhaber fails again. D3 has an integrated NIC for example...



    source

    BTW, there is a clock gen inside P67 if I'm not mistaken.



    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Support is always a three-pronged approach: OS, driver and hardware. Currently, AMD seems to have on-again / off-again TRIM support built into its AHCI driver stack. I know the current 1.2.1.275 AHCI driver has been reported to have several issues with TRIM and some other functions.
    What kind of issues are you talking about exactly? The TRIM works perfetcly for some people who I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Boris- View Post
    Is it?
    Yeh it has too..

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
    ...aand stupid donanimhaber fails again. D3 has an integrated NIC for example...
    depends a bit what roadmap they found/got, the overall desktop roadmap ppt from dec2010 only mentions the parts the the site reports, although off course not with that chart, that is made by donanim....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
    BTW, there is a clock gen inside P67 if I'm not mistaken.
    Indeed, its one of the first intel desktop chipsets who have a integrated clock gen.

    I don't think a internal clock gen is a plus on the hudson chipset. Though it all depends how and what deviders they provide.

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    I don't really see a notable difference between the two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    I don't really see a notable difference between the two?
    USB 3 is pretty big just by itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojoZ View Post
    USB 3 is pretty big just by itself.
    So 1155 won't have usb3? :p
    Get my point?
    Better integration but in the end the boards based on these won't be distinguishable feature wise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    So 1155 won't have usb3? :p
    Get my point?
    Better integration but in the end the boards based on these won't be distinguishable feature wise...
    you are right, but these differences will end up in less additional components and board layers therefore less cost, which already was in favor of AMD. THese are things where OEM for volume market look at.
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