LOLOLOL!!!! I laugh at your mention of things I protested against and hated Intel for years over as proof I'm some kind of Intel fanoy. Until Conroe, I never even owned an Intel CPU, get a grip, son. Since Conroe, AMD has failed to give me a reason to keep buying them. That's not fanboyism, that's simply realism. Intel is faster over all and has been since Conroe. I now support AMD's GPU division when they give me a reason to, which seems to be every other generation or so.
Usually, it's the Fanboy who makes the first accusation of fanboyism, so get yer head out of AMD's butt already
Edit: Also, for the record, if Bulldozer beats Sandy Bridge overall when it launches, you can bet I'll have one. I'm just completely unconvinced by anything I've seen so far that will be the case.
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If you guys don't end dis fanboy bs, da thread will end up getting 86'ed... ^^
It's the same story in this news section, everywhere, when AMD-fans doesn't like an idea, then they stamp with a fanboy. It starts with these kind of ignorance and soon develops to personal attack, offensive language and childish fights. At the end, the constructive arguments drowns in BS.
It's the same when people talk about AMD GPUs too. There are a few good old forum members, who are AMD fans, and cherish these kind of behavior, and then new people adopt it too, I've noticed.
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Exactly what I thought and said.
This isn't as big of a deal as you were all making out to be. Haha, now that all the facts are out you realize this.
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I'm pretty gripped, nephew. And it would be you who made the first fanboy accusation in this topic.
On topic...
"Intel claims that only 5-percent of Sandy Bridge owners will experience the flaw. But speaking with manufacturers, we were told that numbers appear
to be far greater than that. Some companies told us that this is definitely a "panic-mode" situation for them."
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/san...a-3,12112.html
This is a standard testing methodology, it's known as accelerated lifetime testing and has been used by the (mirco)electronics industry for years as a way of determining the products MTBF presumably their data suggests it is significantly less than the target lifetime of the product.Originally Posted by moshpit
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Well in a month or so you guys should beable to rma, which I recommend for everyone.
Not so you can run intel's assents in to the ground, but the truth is we don't need these kind of boards out on the market for people to buy.
The majority of people will probably never see this prob.
It really depends on how you use your pc, how much you stress the south bridge with your everyday stuff.
My recommendation of course is to not use the effected ports, especially for burners...
I don't know about you guys but my burner has to keep working.
(benq dw 1620 to my current burner in my sig, went through 3 crappy liteon's in between)
You could probably kill these controllers probably within days, using 24/7 non-stop random data block writes to the drives.
Which surprises me that intel didn't test them throughly.
They're a chip maker, not a drive maker.
I know that drive makers don't test there drives very well.
All they do is write FF's then 00's to the drive, if it can do that, it's good to them and they ship them out.
Some of us already know that is not a reliable method for testing.
Well at least now they will probably test them a little bit more before they mass produce them.
This was a big mistake on intel's part, so I'm sure there was something to be learned from it.
Yeah this has been an expensive mistake, and they will learn from it.
I guess Intel pushed the chipset-stuff a bit too hard. They got scratched, by working on 3 chipsets P67, H67 and Z68 all at the same time.
I haven't noticed any problem on my ASUS P8P67 Deluxe yet. I recommend Intel replaces our MBs with a Z68 . That would be a good juster and could make us early adopters happy.
EDIT:
Right now, they should announce everyday can chose to replace their MB with a Z68 when it gets available. It would put an end to frustrations and speculations, I guess.
Last edited by Sam_oslo; 02-01-2011 at 12:36 PM.
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I think it would be a good idea for some review sites to build a couple rigs and run them 24/7 or even just 8 hours a day running a batch list of apps. Each day or week test for bit errors ect. Record the results on a web cam for us to see. Would the increase of traffic offset the extra power cost to run?
http://www.gigabyte.com/press-center...e.aspx?nid=984
Originally Posted by GIGABYTE
Have you read it yet? Full recall, sounded a bit extreme if this is a minor problem that will only affect a minority of users. It's going a bit further than Gigabyte's statement.
With ASUS you can, but you'll have to wait until the replacement products are ready.
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This may be a bigger problem too, but not necessarily.
Intel may have chosen a total recall to keep their good reputation. That's actually a good quester. They have proven to be serious about keeping their products in top notch form.
Nothing suggests that it goes further than that GB-statement. They don't need to down-dramatize it, their total-recall act is dramatic enough. How could they take it further you think?
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Well obviously LOL, whats the point of RMAing a product to get another effected product.
Is it just ASUS? Not sure why, I have never had to RMA anything, but I have always liked ASUS products, on my ASUS G50VT-B1 laptop... which I was going to replace with a new Sandy Bridge one in a few weeks when I get back to the States.... Damn I don't like waiting!
Hmm, I wonder if overclocking the BLK will be more likely once the new chipsets are released? If so, it probably won't be as much. Similar to what users got with the FSB of the Core 2's.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Ok...but it should be rock stable in a such important part as the socket...and sata is not connected directly to the amount of stress...in fact they are retireing boards. Quality is quality. And in generation is missing I don't know if you are gonna trust in what I say, but bear in mind that I'm not a fanboy of any kind. You find some kind of objective here
Last edited by Sam_oslo; 02-01-2011 at 01:56 PM.
► ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (BIOS 1305)
► 2600K @4.5GHz 1.27v , 1 hour Prime
► Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 2x2GB Crucial 1066MHz CL7 ECC @1600MHz CL9 1.51v
► GTX560 GB OC @910/2400 0.987v
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 400MB RAMDisk
► CM Storm Scout + Corsair HX 1000W
+
► EVGA SR-2 , A50
► 2 x Xeon X5650 @3.86GHz(203x19) 1.20v
► Megahalem + Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 3x2GB Corsair XMS3 1600 CL7 + 3x4GB G.SKILL Trident 1600 CL7 = 18GB @1624 7-8-7-20 1.65v
► XFX GTX 295 @650/1200/1402
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 2GB RAMDisk
► SilverStone Fortress FT01 + Corsair AX 1200W
connection error, myb
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Where's the info on the Asus recall?
And again, I sound like a broken record, but if I'm not plugging into the 'affected' ports, than I will be fine. Nice icon btw, explains much.
P.S. the boxed sandy' B's are so tiny and cute
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You're probably fine, just don't use the SATA-II ports and RMA the board once the replacements are ready.
Procedures and info will surface later today or tomorrow, basically they are recalling all boards in the channel and offering RMA to end users with affected products. I'd be very surprised if the full text, is not online somewhere.
PCPro The info here is slightly out of date, but I have received the statement they are due to release tomorrow and it is contrary to the penultimate paragraph.
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The Chipset.. or more like the SB is only connected via DMI, there is no QPI link between the cpu and the SB.
Afaik there isn't even a QPI link anymore on consumer SB, on arrandale the QPI link was connecting both dies, now there isn't such a thing anymore.
Imho the wall you mentioned is releated to the L3 cache, people forget that with SB the L3 runs @ the same clock as the core.... Westmere also reaches ~5-5,2ghz L3 clock.
So i doubt with a new chipset stepping you will see significant improvments on the chips.
Anyway thats quite offtopic.
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