NEW: aquaero 5 series

[gatecrasherlok]

My XT touchscreen buttons are really sensitive and needs to be addressed. i hope they sort it out. however it's not that of a biggie as I have set everything I wanted through the aquasuite and turned off the touchscreen capabilities.

[zoomee]

1027 firmware and new software release available now

It just keeps getting better and better!! Keep up the good work aquacomputer , thanks

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[D749]

Updated my AQ5 Pro and four PA2s to the latest firmware without issue last week. Too bad I need to finish my re-build before I can play with them.


The Goods :: http://pc.thedigitalfoundry.com

[El Mano]

Hi Shoggy,
Is there any way I can use HWiNFO as software sensor?

[mateeQ]

Does anyone have aquasuit r4 or r5 version ?

[Shoggy]

Hi Shoggy,
Is there any way I can use HWiNFO as software sensor?

That will depend on the used software. We changed the software sensor stuff to work with the WMI (Windows Management Instrumentation) from Windows. So most tools that writes its temperatures values to the WMI can be used. I have no idea if hwinfo does support it.

Does anyone have aquasuit r4 or r5 version ?

http://www.aquacomputer.de/tl_files/...2_setup_05.exe
http://www.aquacomputer.de/tl_files/...2_setup_04.exe
http://www.aquacomputer.de/tl_files/...2_setup_03.exe

[Phatboy69]

Aquasuite 2012 XML export for LCDHost for G19 colour screen..
I got some scripting done to clean the xml with an "xslt" xml template to remove the xml attributes and make a clean xml file. A batch file runs every 5 secs against the aquasuite xml file to strip the stuff that LCDHost doesnt like.
The problem I have now is that the Dataviewer looks like it can only handle 1 instance so I cant have seperate xml files processed by seperate dataviewers. While I can set each dataviewer to its own data source the data txt and data bar instances will only read data from the last Dataviewer in the list. It looks like the dataviewer templates cannot be matched to a particular connector?!?!? Ive tried making a parsing map file and having all the data in the same XML file but i dont know enough to make it work or even if the current xml structure from aquasuite 2012 would work.

Anyone got any advice?

Batch file

:top
C:\libxslt-1.1.26.win32\bin\xsltproc.exe -o c:\cpu-clean.xml c:\CPU.xsl c:\CPU.xml
C:\libxslt-1.1.26.win32\bin\xsltproc.exe -o c:\gpu-clean.xml c:\CPU.xsl c:\GPU.xml
timeout 5
goto top

Before cleaning

?<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<LogDataExport xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
  <name>CPU</name>
  <exportTime>2013-03-07T01:03:58.0461184+11:00</exportTime>
  <logdata>
    <LogDataSet>
      <t>2013-03-07T01:03:57.912</t>
      <value>35.41</value>
      <name>CPU Water out T2</name>
      <unit>°C</unit>
      <valueType>temperature</valueType>
      <device>aquaero 5 (A5)</device>
    </LogDataSet>
  </logdata>
</LogDataExport>

After cleaning

<LogDataExport>
  <name>CPU</name>
  <exportTime>2013-03-07T01:03:58.0461184+11:00</exportTime>
  <logdata>
    <LogDataSet>
      <t>2013-03-07T01:03:57.912</t>
      <value>35.41</value>
      <name>CPU Water out T2</name>
      <unit>°C</unit>
      <valueType>temperature</valueType>
      <device>aquaero 5 (A5)</device>
    </LogDataSet>
  </logdata>
</LogDataExport>

Result in LCDHost


Here's a combined XML from aquasuite that I cant seem to create a map file for.

<LogDataExport>
  <name>Temps</name>
  <exportTime>2012-11-14T14:13:32.2662968+11:00</exportTime>
  <logdata>
    <LogDataSet>
      <t>2012-11-14T14:13:32.058</t>
      <value>31.84</value>
      <name>CPU Water In Temp</name>
      <unit>°C</unit>
      <valueType>temperature</valueType>
      <device>aquaero 5</device>
    </LogDataSet>
    <LogDataSet>
      <t>2012-11-14T14:13:32.058</t>
      <value>28.28</value>
      <name>GPU Water In Temp</name>
      <unit>°C</unit>
      <valueType>temperature</valueType>
      <device>aquaero 5</device>
    </LogDataSet>
  </logdata>
</LogDataExport>

[Phatboy69]

Great News!!! I got it all working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Im using 2 data connectors in LCDHost to pickup the CPU and GPU water loop temps.. I can now add anything I like from Aquasuite 2012 XML logs to the G19 screen!


I had to create a seperate map file for each dataconnector and use the cleaned XML files which I cleaned with the XSL template script. (now running every 10secs as water temps dont change that quickly.)


OCCT Powersupply test running in background.
This shows the CPU Water Temp Data Template below.
{logdata.LogDataSets.CpuName} {logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTemp}?C




This shows the Data Connector XML file and XML Map file.



The XML export from Aquasuite 2012.


CPU datamap file that tells LCDHost how to read the cleaned XML file from Aquasuite after its been cleaned with my XSL batchfile. It took hours and hours of trial and error to get this to work!

[Format]
type=xml		; xml / txt / ini
dataExpiry=0		; # of seconds to consider the data invalid
language=EN		; The language used by the lists in this file. Other languages can be added by copying the lists to a new text file,
			; translating them and then saving the file as "lists.<language>.txt", e.g. lists.RU.txt

[Parsing]
logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTime		
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTime.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.t
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTime.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.t
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTime.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.t

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTemp
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTemp.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.value
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTemp.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.value
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuTemp.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.value

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuName		
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuName.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.name
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuName.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.name
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuName.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.name

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuUnit		
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuUnit.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.unit
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuUnit.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.unit
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuUnit.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.unit

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuvalueType		
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuvalueType.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.valueType
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuvalueType.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.valueType
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuValueType.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.valueType

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuDevice		
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuDevice.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.device
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuDevice.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.device
logdata.LogDataSets.CpuDevice.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.device

The GPU Datamap file.

[Format]
type=xml		; xml / txt / ini
dataExpiry=0		; # of seconds to consider the data invalid
language=EN		; The language used by the lists in this file. Other languages can be added by copying the lists to a new text file,
			; translating them and then saving the file as "lists.<language>.txt", e.g. lists.RU.txt



[Parsing]
logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTime		
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTime.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.t
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTime.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.t
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTime.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.t

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTemp
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTemp.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.value
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTemp.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.value
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuTemp.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.value

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuName		
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuName.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.name
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuName.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.name
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuName.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.name

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuUnit		
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuUnit.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.unit
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuUnit.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.unit
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuUnit.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.unit

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuvalueType		
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuvalueType.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.valueType
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuvalueType.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.valueType
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuValueType.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.valueType

logdata.LogDataSets
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuDevice		
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuDevice.*Value	logdata.LogDataSet.device
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuDevice.Level	logdata.LogDataSet.device
logdata.LogDataSets.GpuDevice.Level.Code	logdata.LogDataSet.device

The batch file that runs the XSL template against the raw XML files from Aquasuite.

:top
C:\libxslt-1.1.26.win32\bin\xsltproc.exe -o c:\cpu-clean.xml c:\CPU.xsl c:\CPU.xml
C:\libxslt-1.1.26.win32\bin\xsltproc.exe -o c:\gpu-clean.xml c:\CPU.xsl c:\GPU.xml
timeout 10
goto top

Here's the all important XSL template named cpu.xsl that cleans the XML file of all the stuff that LCDHost doesnt like! Took me a while to work this one out!

<xsl:stylesheet

  xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"

  version="1.0">

 <xsl:output method="xml" version="1.0" indent="no" omit-xml-declaration="yes"/>

  <xsl:template match="*">

    <xsl:element name="{local-name()}">

      <xsl:apply-templates select="@* | node()"/>

    </xsl:element>

  </xsl:template>

 

  <xsl:template match="@*">

    <xsl:attribute name="{local-name()}">

      <xsl:value-of select="."/>

    </xsl:attribute>

  </xsl:template>

 

  <xsl:template match="text() | comment() | processing-instruction()">

    <xsl:copy/>

  </xsl:template>

 

</xsl:stylesheet>

Heres the cleaned XML for the CPU Water Temp that LCDHost uses.. (the GPU looks the same)

<LogDataExport>
  <name>CPU</name>
  <exportTime>2013-03-08T01:24:18.4380893+11:00</exportTime>
  <logdata>
    <LogDataSet>
      <t>2013-03-08T01:24:17.577</t>
      <value>34.9</value>
      <name>CPU Water in T1</name>
      <unit>°C</unit>
      <valueType>temperature</valueType>
      <device>aquaero 5 (A5)</device>
    </LogDataSet>
  </logdata>
</LogDataExport>

[aRkangeL]

Hi guys,

Can i connect a white led stripe with 3 pins fan connectors on the Aquaero 5 XT on the RGB led port?!

[Shoggy]

No, that will not work. The RGB port is designed to power one LED and not a a stripe with many LEDs

[Phatboy69]

The new 2013-1 versions of Aquasuite xml export all works properly now!
I managed to get the fan rpm signals displayed on the G19 too. The next big challenge is to setup a dedicated Aquasuite monitoring page for the G19.

[mbreslin]

Does a controller exist that can undervolt a bunch of non-pwm fans (12) based on sensor data?

Sorry if this is the wrong place but seems this thread is filled with smart people. :p

[mm67]

Does a controller exist that can undervolt a bunch of non-pwm fans (12) based on sensor data?

Sorry if this is the wrong place but seems this thread is filled with smart people. :p

You found the right thread, Aquaero 5 is what you are looking for.

[mbreslin]

You found the right thread, Aquaero 5 is what you are looking for.

Will I have to daisy chain a bunch of the aquero addon boards? (I forget their name atm)

For the first time in a couple years my rig is completely torn down for loop maintenance and I thought I would see what my options are for temp based fan/pump control.

I have 2 loops: 1 has 8 fans and (will be) a mcp35x and the second loop has 12 fans and (will be) a mcp35x

I would like each group of pump+fans to watch a sensor (gpus or cpu) and power down the pump via pwm and undervolt the fans.

Please let me know if this is possible and what it entails? Price doesn't matter so I could do 2x aquaero (I actually prefer 2 for aesthetics in the front of my mm ascension) but I don't have a lot of extra room for putting the addon boards.

[mm67]

Will I have to daisy chain a bunch of the aquero addon boards? (I forget their name atm)

For the first time in a couple years my rig is completely torn down for loop maintenance and I thought I would see what my options are for temp based fan/pump control.

I have 2 loops: 1 has 8 fans and (will be) a mcp35x and the second loop has 12 fans and (will be) a mcp35x

I would like each group of pump+fans to watch a sensor (gpus or cpu) and power down the pump via pwm and undervolt the fans.

Please let me know if this is possible and what it entails? Price doesn't matter so I could do 2x aquaero (I actually prefer 2 for aesthetics in the front of my mm ascension) but I don't have a lot of extra room for putting the addon boards.

If you want to control two MCP35X pumps separately then you will need two Aquaeros since they only have one channel that can output PWM control. For fans you can use the remaining three channels with splitters, if your fans use a lot of power then you may have to add waterblocks for Aquaero's.

[cx-ray]

I have 2 loops: 1 has 8 fans and (will be) a mcp35x and the second loop has 12 fans and (will be) a mcp35x

I would like each group of pump+fans to watch a sensor (gpus or cpu) and power down the pump via pwm and undervolt the fans.

It's better to link your pumps and fans to your water temp. Otherwise, with every little load change the sound of your system will vary. It'll also allow your system to take advantage of the heat buffering capacity of water. Your system will be more silent with the delayed response of your pumps and fans.

[mbreslin]

I was planning to have less of a curve and more of a cliff. For example pumps/fans always at 50% until some relatively high temp is reached. The water temp is a much better plan thanks!

[stren]

I was planning to have less of a curve and more of a cliff. For example pumps/fans always at 50% until some relatively high temp is reached. The water temp is a much better plan thanks!

Hmmm interesting, that's true that the water will buffer it, though the pump could cut a degree or three off the CPU in the mean time if that was directly PWM controlled. I do like the idea of it smoothing out though. I assume you can set it to be controlled by (coolant - air) temps rather than just water temps though because otherwise ambients will affect you though?

[.::NeO::.]

Hi everyone,

maybe what I'm about to ask is a dumb question, but I couldn't find an answer.

I've read a couple of reviews and basically the Aquaero 5 XT is the best unit out there atm, with a lot of features etc. What I want to know is very simple:

Is it possible to have a menu that shows the total number of pumps (for example) connected and their speed all in one screen?

Something like this:



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Basically I have 2 aquacomputer D5 vario, the ones with the knob and the speed cable. I want to connect the two D5 speed cables in two 3 pin fan headers on the aquaero 5 xt and I would like to monitor the speed of each pump, possibly all in one menu, without switching from pump1 menu to pump2 menu.

And also: is it possible to set an alarm that starts when one of the pumps run below X rpm (for example 500 rpm)?

[Phatboy69]

Hi everyone,

maybe what I'm about to ask is a dumb question, but I couldn't find an answer.

I've read a couple of reviews and basically the Aquaero 5 XT is the best unit out there atm, with a lot of features etc. What I want to know is very simple:

Is it possible to have a menu that shows the total number of pumps (for example) connected and their speed all in one screen?

Something like this:



Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Basically I have 2 aquacomputer D5 vario, the ones with the knob and the speed cable. I want to connect the two D5 speed cables in two 3 pin fan headers on the aquaero 5 xt and I would like to monitor the speed of each pump, possibly all in one menu, without switching from pump1 menu to pump2 menu.

And also: is it possible to set an alarm that starts when one of the pumps run below X rpm (for example 500 rpm)?

Yes it will display rpm or % power for all 4 channels.

[.::NeO::.]

Yes it will display rpm or % power for all 4 channels.

Awesome, thank-you very much for your feedback

[mbreslin]

Hmmm interesting, that's true that the water will buffer it, though the pump could cut a degree or three off the CPU in the mean time if that was directly PWM controlled. I do like the idea of it smoothing out though. I assume you can set it to be controlled by (coolant - air) temps rather than just water temps though because otherwise ambients will affect you though?

I have 3 young ones so my ambients will always be high, it's just something I would take into account. I would probably have the gpu cliff be 55c and the cpu cliff maybe 70c. What do you think?

Also to any other aquaero users: Is either d5-pwm or 35x better suited to be run with an aquaero? I've never used d5 pumps and with all the hoopla over how quiet they are I would consider trying them this time around.

Thanks.

[stren]

I have 3 young ones so my ambients will always be high, it's just something I would take into account. I would probably have the gpu cliff be 55c and the cpu cliff maybe 70c. What do you think?

Also to any other aquaero users: Is either d5-pwm or 35x better suited to be run with an aquaero? I've never used d5 pumps and with all the hoopla over how quiet they are I would consider trying them this time around.

Thanks.

Sounds reasonable. There is also the AquaComputer D5 USB also and the Aquastream XT which all play nicely with the aquaero I believe. Martin did a nice review on the aquastream pump.

[cx-ray]

Also to any other aquaero users: Is either d5-pwm or 35x better suited to be run with an aquaero? I've never used d5 pumps and with all the hoopla over how quiet they are I would consider trying them this time around.

Thanks.

Go with whichever pumps you like most. When my system is idling or under low load my 35x pumps are running at around 2000 rpm. Only when the water temp reaches 32C are they set to run at maximum speed. By then the fans drown out the pump noise, even though they are only running at around 700 rpm. You basically never hear your pumps if you mount them properly suspended.

BTW, if you setup the pumps like I have (without a response curve), don't set the revving down temp at the same point. You don't want them to constantly rev up and down if the water temp happens to hover around 32C.

[Jakusonfire]

I have 3 young ones so my ambients will always be high, it's just something I would take into account. I would probably have the gpu cliff be 55c and the cpu cliff maybe 70c. What do you think?

Also to any other aquaero users: Is either d5-pwm or 35x better suited to be run with an aquaero? I've never used d5 pumps and with all the hoopla over how quiet they are I would consider trying them this time around.

Thanks.

I have found that varying pump speed is really not very useful with D5 pumps. I have two of the USB D5's and having the speed change just meant that I noticed the sound more because the pumps would move from being very quite at low speed, through a louder mid range and quite down again near top speed. Now I just have them set at a nice quite speed that provides enough flow. That could just as easily be done with a normal manual D5.
Having said that the best way to do it with two pumps is the D5 usb's ... They solve all the problems of controlling pumps with the Aquaero. They aren't cheap but compared to two regular pumps and two power adjust's its cheaper.

With watercooling to me the only logical way to control fan speeds is based on water temp, or rather the air/water delta temp. The fans aren't cooling the GPU and CPU anymore, the water is doing that as long as the pump is running. How effective that water is now becomes a matter of how close you can keep that water's temp to ambient temp. The Aquaero makes it easy to set up a system that constantly gives you the best cooling vs noise balance that responds to system load, even if the ambient temp changes throughout the day, weeks, years.