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    Quote Originally Posted by wez View Post
    How nice of you to validate Flankers claim

    Sadly, I doubt that was your intention, lol.
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    How exactly is he validating Flanker's claim ?
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    Beep: Thuban at 4300 MHZ (my) hit 7.72 points in R11.5, 2500k at 4.8 GHz has 7.65points, 3DMax2011 (I have here only this data): 4.05GHz 1100T 382s, 5GHz 2600k 316s (think 4c/4t 2500K at 4800MHz will be worse than 4c/8t 2600k 5GHz).

    So, which shoes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
    Beep: Thuban at 4300 MHZ (my) hit 7.72 points in R11.5, 2500k at 4.8 GHz has 7.65points, 3DMax2011 (I have here only this data): 4.05GHz 1100T 382s, 5GHz 2600k 316s (think 4c/4t 2500K at 4800MHz will be worse than 4c/8t 2600k 5GHz).

    So, which shoes?
    Those are pretty equal scores. I'm sure you can get 7.7 out of a 2500K at 4.8.
    Besides, I don't think you can write a review based purely on Cinebench 11.5.

    I can't run Cinebench 11.5 at 4.3 Ghz at even unsafe voltages on water. I haven't seen a 2500K that couldn't run Cinebench above 4.8 Ghz.

    Not eating a shoe just yet, 0.8% win isn't really a win in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
    Beep: Thuban at 4300 MHZ (my) hit 7.72 points in R11.5, 2500k at 4.8 GHz has 7.65points, 3DMax2011 (I have here only this data): 4.05GHz 1100T 382s, 5GHz 2600k 316s (think 4c/4t 2500K at 4800MHz will be worse than 4c/8t 2600k 5GHz).

    So, which shoes?
    3dsmax 2011:
    http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/p...k_3ds_max_2011

    ... but if you use 3dsmax9 ... :
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/17

    ... and btw the current version for cinema 4d is R13!
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    Mine 2500K@5Ghz is doing 7,94 in CB 11,5.
    CB likes HT so 2600K is much quicker even with lower clockspeed.
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    One thing to note is that C4D R13 makes significant changes to the renderer, as it does physical lighting now.

    Whether BD renders fast in R13 is another thing, but I'm pretty sure almost everyone will be on the new version quite soonish.
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    so are they launching BD soon or a comic book?

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    Found this:
    I7 4.0GHz 4 core 12 gigs ram. All times in seconds, all files loaded into the full version of c4d, all renders done 3 times.

    Cinebench 10 bike scene

    R11.5: 19
    R12.0: 19
    R13.0: 18

    Cinebench 11.5 Sponza scene

    R11.5: 79
    R12.0: 75
    R13.0: 74
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    Those are pretty equal scores. I'm sure you can get 7.7 out of a 2500K at 4.8.
    Besides, I don't think you can write a review based purely on Cinebench 11.5.

    I can't run Cinebench 11.5 at 4.3 Ghz at even unsafe voltages on water. I haven't seen a 2500K that couldn't run Cinebench above 4.8 Ghz.

    Not eating a shoe just yet, 0.8% win isn't really a win in my book.
    Look, I'm not trying to be a stickler here, but it disturbs me that you're discarding accuracy for consistency of your claim. Your claim made no mention of there needing to be a wide margin or a variety of tests. Your claim, as stated, has been successfully challenged. If what you said was not what you meant, you shouldn't have said it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by undone View Post
    'This is an advance notification of security bulletins that Microsoft is intending to release on October 11, 2011.'

    but i cant find any hardware related update on that page, maybe coincidence?
    Maybe Microsoft is under NDA as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by undone View Post
    Some interesting talk about x264 optimizing on bulldozer

    http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...&postcount=562
    http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...&postcount=585


    Looks like fma4 & XOP bring greater help than AVX on bulldozer. Seems we would get a revolutionay change since MMX.
    7 days late but this post is still relevant to me. Sounds like BD's going to be an encoding monster once x264 gets updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    It's like GPUs lads, it's all in the software/drivers written for it...

    We can test this new architecure on older apps and it might blow. Yet blow the socks off the previous generation with newer software... But as a reviewer you have to draw a line somewhere, somehow and decide what's feasible or not (mostly we are limited due to databases,...) ...

    Speaking for myself I did not adapt my test suite, so the outcome might not reflect the performance you get in Y Cruncher, POV ray, X264HD with AVX etc... An update will follow with inclusion of some new numbers with adapted software... I think most review sites will do a similar thing, if not done already...

    It will be fun to play with, especially the hardcore guys will set new records...
    I'm not sure if you have answered this yet or not, but where are you going to post up your review at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxforces View Post
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    Sb will lose in 3ds
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    but in cinebench wins


    All tests have a 500MHz difference are here after OC
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    Quote Originally Posted by r.p View Post
    3dsmax 2011:
    http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/p...k_3ds_max_2011

    ... but if you use 3dsmax9 ... :
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/17

    ... and btw the current version for cinema 4d is R13!
    Talking about 3dsmax9??

    3dsmax.jpg

    the performance of BD is here in this graph

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesariuth View Post
    the performance of BD is here in this graph
    It's the three at the top, do a better job at blurring next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cesariuth View Post
    Talking about 3dsmax9??

    3dsmax.jpg

    the performance of BD is here in this graph
    it's the first 3 result, it's easy to tell the difference from the leading letter, it's an F on the first 3 and a C on the other ones.

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    I think that the FX line will be great for gamers...

    For what i've been reading and seing ... if you're not a synthetic bencher and more of a gamer... the FX will give you top performance on par with more expensive rigs
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    the middle of the bottom 3 blurred lines looks like its 2600k stock
    the chart does not give a great impression for BD, just an ok/sub-par impression
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    the middle of the bottom 3 blurred lines looks like its 2600k stock
    the chart does not give a great impression for BD, just an ok/sub-par impression
    I don't think it is the 2600K

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    the middle of the bottom 3 blurred lines looks like its 2600k stock
    the chart does not give a great impression for BD, just an ok/sub-par impression
    to me it looks like core i7-3XXXK maybe the i7-3930K model?

    the three FX one look like maybe
    FX-81XX stock
    FX-81XX(maybe FX61XX)
    FX-81XX @ 4XXX MHz?

    and the core i7's look like maybe?
    core i7-3930K or 3960K
    core i7-3820
    core i7-920/870 or 750?

    but its very hard to make it out exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by blindbox View Post
    7 days late but this post is still relevant to me. Sounds like BD's going to be an encoding monster once x264 gets updated.
    Well dont be too optimistic, of course instruction set could do well in some code, but for other code is another story. Wait and see.

    Quote Originally Posted by cesariuth View Post
    Talking about 3dsmax9??

    3dsmax.jpg

    the performance of BD is here in this graph
    according to the graph, 8150(415) is 8% slower than 980x(382). I could be wrong.
    Last edited by undone; 10-11-2011 at 08:49 AM.

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    all these benchmarks comparing cpus in various states of overclock = useless and confusing and harmful. we need stock vs stock. then overclocked vs overclocked. not this mixed up chit

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamtan2 View Post
    all these benchmarks comparing cpus in various states of overclock = useless and confusing and harmful. we need stock vs stock. then overclocked vs overclocked. not this mixed up chit
    we need all the results.

    confusing?! you cant distinguish numbers?!
    if you dont want to see oc results just dont watch them, I want to see them

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    Quote Originally Posted by cesariuth View Post
    I don't think it is the 2600K
    That version of 3dsmax use more than 8 threads like 2011 and 2011?
    Last edited by Gilgamesh; 10-11-2011 at 10:03 AM.

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