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i tried to get clarity on what the 80% was because its clearly confusing people,
i got an answer, and i trust that answer until we are told it was a mistake.

I have no problem with that . But you have hints now,by a several users (chew* being the most respected one) that this "8C" part performs more like 4C/8T part,which is perfectly in line with Analyst Day presentation. And you have some benchmarks too,although on non final hardware,that shows similar behavior (100x mentioned cinenebench). Note that the cinebench score from far east matches what *M* said in the press briefing some weeks ago.

BTW Manicdan,from the same link you posted ,I have found this:

So, let me take on these statements:

“Aren’t these two premises in conflict?”
No, actually they are not. You are looking at 2 different comparisons. The “80%” number is not performance relative to previous generation. 80% is the throughput of two threads running on a single module vs. 2 threads running on two completely independent cores.

There you go,even JF said it.