AMD Zambezi news, info, fans !

[FlanK3r]

Whauuuu First performance slide!



Testing in:
- PC MArk Vantage - TV and movies
- Cinebench R11.5
- 3D Mark 06 (CPU část)

Render performance is more than awesome!!!i7 980x will be here beating!

PC Mark:
x6 1100T 6430b
i7 980x 7150b
i7 2600k 7700b
AMD Zambezi 7950b

Cinebench R11.5
x6 1100T 5.9b
i7 980x 8.95b
i7 2600k 6.7b
AMD Zambezi 11b !!!

3D06 CPU
x6 1100t 5990b
i7 980x 7388b
i7 2600k 6600b
AMD Zambezi 8800b!

[zalbard]

Listing the source would be appropriate.
Good looking numbers if true.
Also, the image does not work.

[ReKcOlNu]

What speed was the CPU?

Just found this...
http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci/...s-dokumani.htm

[FlanK3r]

CPU speed is not important, if it at stock clocks...

[Manicdan]

where did you find the numbers? i already saw the slide but dont know where the source is for actual numbers

[ReKcOlNu]

CPU speed is not important, if it at stock clocks...

So its probably the fastest chip they'll be releasing at launch then.

Would of really gotten excited if someone was to say,.. its only the 3GHz $199 mid-range part, the 3.8GHz $299 black edition is another 30+% faster!

[Slappa]

If these are true it still does not indicate single threaded performance.

Most of these apps are multi-threaded and with BD's new design it seems that we already knew that the multithreading would be greatly improved.

If we see Pi runs that match nehalem or DB then we know there was a strong FPU/Single thread increase

[muziqaz]

Pi? Seriously?
you want to run single threaded x87 app on next gen x64 modular CPU to see it's performance?

[Manicdan]

with turbo2.0 it will be really tough to say what performance will be since clock rates will be higher, and there is currently no details on clock rates with/without turbo.

[Slappa]

Pi? Seriously?
you want to run single threaded x87 app on next gen x64 modular CPU to see it's performance?

Surprisingly yes.

Not to measure performance as a whole...but to see single threaded performance. If that has improved, then the architecture compare to K10.5 has been dramatically improved, and may actually catch up/beat intel.

Multithreaded performance is not everything, as some APPs are still coded for single threads.

If the single threaded and multithreaded performance are good then we can see a nice all around chip.

[Manicdan]

the problem i have with Pi is how old and unoptimized it is

whats a good REAL USE single threaded test for today? besides games that only use 2-4 cores?

[Slappa]

the problem i have with Pi is how old and unoptimized it is

whats a good REAL USE single threaded test for today? besides games that only use 2-4 cores?

Unoptimized and old yes.

But I see Phenom II's @ 6.2GHz+ doing 10 seconds under LN2 on 1m

SB is doing 6 seconds at like 5.5.

If the BD design has improved that much, we will at least see some faster pi.

[informal]

Pi stresses the x87 logic inside the chip.That's is not representative of single thread performance. Single thread integer SIMD workloads are the most representative of single thread "IPC". BD should do well here too.

[chew*]

then use pifast as a comparison.

bottom line good single threaded performance means better over all performance in multithreaded as well since CPC is faster.

A chip for instance that has the same CPC as thuban would juat be thuban with 2 cores added, where as a chip that has much faster CPC would be able to match thuban in multithreaded with just 4 cores........

[Smartidiot89]

Unoptimized and old yes.

But I see Phenom II's @ 6.2GHz+ doing 10 seconds under LN2 on 1m

SB is doing 6 seconds at like 5.5.

If the BD design has improved that much, we will at least see some faster pi.

SuperPi wouldn't show us a thing. This is a completely new uArch that surely has alot of it's optimizations into code and instructions we can only dream that SuperPi has Intel nor AMD barely cares about x87 anymore and surely isn't optimizing their newest and hottest for SuperPi.

[informal]

You are correct chew* .Don't forget that IPC(or CPC) is only one part of performance equation.There is working frequencies too . BD is supposed to be able to clock very high,so 2module/4 core Zambezi should not only be faster than Deneb QC at the same clock ,but should be able to work at much higher clocks from the start(think 4Ghz stock with Turbo on top of that). There are rumors of 3.5-3.8Ghz range for 95W 8 core parts .

[zalbard]

There are rumors of 3.5-3.8Ghz range for 95W 8 core parts .

Now that would be one epic cruncher / air gaming chip...

[chew*]

Sounds good, atm AMD is tight lipped. I'm really not in the loop anymore for whatever reasons.

To bad we don't have clock sppeds for those numbers. I calculated awhile ago that 8 cores would put us on par with 980X as HT effeciency seems to drop on that platform the more cores they add.

[Oliverda]

Whauuuu First performance slide!



Testing in:
- PC MArk Vantage - TV and movies
- Cinebench R11.5
- 3D Mark 06 (CPU část)

Render performance is more than awesome!!!i7 980x will be here beating!

PC Mark:
x6 1100T 6430b
i7 980x 7150b
i7 2600k 7700b
AMD Zambezi 7950b

Cinebench R11.5
x6 1100T 5.9b
i7 980x 8.95b
i7 2600k 6.7b
AMD Zambezi 11b !!!

3D06 CPU
x6 1100t 5990b
i7 980x 7388b
i7 2600k 6600b
AMD Zambezi 8800b!

source?

[FlanK3r]

scores? A logic, some Hans, some i found at the web.

Think, in superpi we will se time about 14s at stock clocks, maybe a bit under 14s

[Manicdan]

i hope no one hates me for wanting a 2module/4core BD. with overclocking it should still beat my thuban in multithreaded, but demolish it for gaming. i just dont have any reason to use more than 4 cores right now and lower power consumption means i can go cheaper on the board and save a little cash on the electric bill, and alot of cash on the chip. i just feel like i should throw myself off a bridge for upgrading to less cores, lol.

[Oliverda]

scores? A logic, some Hans, some i found at the web.

Think, in superpi we will se time about 14s at stock clocks, maybe a bit under 14s

So it's nothing just useless speculation again.

[BeepBeep2]

i hope no one hates me for wanting a 2module/4core BD. with overclocking it should still beat my thuban in multithreaded, but demolish it for gaming. i just dont have any reason to use more than 4 cores right now and lower power consumption means i can go cheaper on the board and save a little cash on the electric bill, and alot of cash on the chip. i just feel like i should throw myself off a bridge for upgrading to less cores, lol.

That would be AMD's equivalent to Sandy Bridge. Ivy Bridge is what this should be competing with.

[Dahaka]

source?

An user on SemiAccurate.

[Oliverda]

An user on SemiAccurate.

His (the user) calculations unfortunately based on a fake slide.