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    More Performance with Win7 Sp1!

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    so SP1 is better huh?

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    Hotfixes for Direct X and graphics cards are probably why you see performance increases.

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    Dear M$ please allow users to install only what we need and not all that extra useless crap that slows down our systems. If we choose to download it from you later or install it off the cd this would be fine too. Thx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    Dear M$ please allow users to install only what we need and not all that extra useless crap that slows down our systems. If we choose to download it from you later or install it off the cd this would be fine too. Thx.
    You can do that already with vLite or other similar software by editing the installation media.

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    With sp1, to many crashes though only downfall!

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    Dear M$ please allow users to install only what we need and not all that extra useless crap that slows down our systems. If we choose to download it from you later or install it off the cd this would be fine too. Thx.
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    expect some bug / compatibility issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielkza View Post
    You can do that already with vLite or other similar software by editing the installation media.
    Do you still need to slipstream sp1 to the install disc or can you download sp1 like normal along with other windows updates now? This is why I passed on vlite before.

    edit: nevermind I see you still need to do this. Makes me wonder if sp2 comes out if you're going to have to reinstall windows again but with sp2 slipstreamed. Since your lite version is going to be missing stuff but has what sp1 needed. But in reality it might be missing something sp2 will be updating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    Do you still need to slipstream sp1 to the install disc or can you download sp1 like normal along with other windows updates now? This is why I passed on vlite before.

    edit: nevermind I see you still need to do this. Makes me wonder if sp2 comes out if you're going to have to reinstall windows again but with sp2 slipstreamed. Since your lite version is going to be missing stuff but has what sp1 needed. But in reality it might be missing something sp2 will be updating.
    You're only stressed out about sp2? Where I'm from, we're already filling the nuclear shelters for the dreaded sp8 release!

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiacid View Post
    You're only stressed out about sp2? Where I'm from, we're already filling the nuclear shelters for the dreaded sp8 release!
    I'm not stressed out, I've had the same vista install on my comp for 4 years. I just don't like software that is essentially a huge waste of time like a version of windows that can't even install an update later.
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    Anyone know when is SP1 (final version) officially meant to be released? GTX460 really seems to love SP1 lol, very intriguing for a GTX460 owner like myself. It's not one or two tests but nearly all tests show an improvement and quite a significant improvement even (bigger increase than what we see from the gfx drivers usually) for this card, like looks too good to be true for what is an OS update only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sin0822 View Post
    so SP1 is better huh?
    I had no idea such a thing would actually happen or be true. I always thought that Service Packs meant lower performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian View Post
    I had no idea such a thing would actually happen or be true. I always thought that Service Packs meant lower performance.
    Service packs and updates are there for the sole purpose of improving the existing software. If the system isn't going to be improved by these changes, they wouldn't have even been worked on. Let alone, released for people to be used.
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    Yea but I suppose he meant more like some updates may bring lower performance that are made for compability or security's sake. I see Microsoft much more often focuses on security and compability especially instead of performance improvements. :p

    But DirectX is an important section of their OS I suppose and that's where this performance increase has to come from seeing especially that it mostly seems to benefit DX11 compatible cards which makes most sense as DX11 has been around for the least amount of time and is therefore more likely to see some enhancements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
    Service packs and updates are there for the sole purpose of improving the existing software. If the system isn't going to be improved by these changes, they wouldn't have even been worked on. Let alone, released for people to be used.
    I know. I was just being facetious.
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    Are they testing vanilla version of Windows 7 against SP1 or an up-to-date version?

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    wasn't sp1 just all the updates so far in one pack? I really doubt there's going to be much difference in gaming performance. Since when has a service pack brought gaming performance anyways?
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    the notes on sp1 from MS say nothing on performance increases its mostly the new remote desktop, direct access updates and server gets a new hyperV system with dynamic memory mapping and clustered VMs

    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    Dear M$ please allow users to install only what we need and not all that extra useless crap that slows down our systems. If we choose to download it from you later or install it off the cd this would be fine too. Thx.
    what exactly do they put on there that is bad for performance and is not necessary for general users. the only thing i can think of off hand is tablet and touch input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    the notes on sp1 from MS say nothing on performance increases its mostly the new remote desktop, direct access updates and server gets a new hyperV system with dynamic memory mapping and clustered VMs



    what exactly do they put on there that is bad for performance and is not necessary for general users. the only thing i can think of off hand is tablet and touch input.
    4gb+gets installed compared to xp. Do I think there is 4+GB worth of improvements not really. You can't tell me that they can't slim it down.
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    I doubt there will be much difference if any at all comparing to the fully patched Win7 system today.
    Still... I reinstalled just yesterday. Got Win7 x64 and Office 2007, and I had around 100 updates to download, over a gigabyte in total. So would be about time for them to release a SP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    4gb+gets installed compared to xp. Do I think there is 4+GB worth of improvements not really. You can't tell me that they can't slim it down.
    Meh, don't compare Win7 with XP. XP is like grand grand father of OS in software age time table.

    Only 4gb though? Not bad. It's not like few gigs are hard to come by these days. Even running on 60gb ish SSD, there is more than enough to spare.

    I am sure they can slim it down but then people will still complain anyway, so what's the point? They might as well do whatever they want and please themselves at least.

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    Any specific launch date revealed yet? All I've heard is Q1..

    32-bit W7 can be cut down from 7.5 GB (stock) to less than 1.5 GB, but I can't see the point, since all you get is more free HDD space, not better performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mats View Post
    Any specific launch date revealed yet? All I've heard is Q1..
    It is still Q1 2011, officially. No further info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mats View Post
    32-bit W7 can be cut down from 7.5 GB (stock) to less than 1.5 GB, but I can't see the point, since all you get is more free HDD space, not better performance.
    Its useful if you run a small SSD for your OS drive or an older netbook install.
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