AMD Launches HD 6770 AND HD 6750 (Rename!!)

[AMDDeathstar]

I think everyone has been numbed out by all of the renaming over the last few years from both sides, but almost exclusively by NV, that they don't care anymore.

yep

[Johnny87au]

Shyt marketing, Seems like there trying to make the 5xxx series cards obsolete and trying to fix there 6xxx series product range, So what exactly is improved with the 6770, just HDMI 1.4a for 3dtv? and does it use less power or ?

[Chrono Detector]

Looks like ATI is copying NVIDIA's renaming schemes, monkey see, monkey do.... lame.

So far the 6xxx series is a disappointment, except the 68xx series is ok.

[Lanek]

Isnt this what they also did with the 6970 and 6950? Arent they just renamed 5870s and 5850s?

????? ofc yes... nearly all is different there... what are you talking about ? new Processors ( VLIW4 ) 24 SMID vs 20 / 2 GPE vs 1 / new ROP's / more TU / complete restructuration of some parts for computation.

Sadly It's not what AMD have plan to release during 2 years of developpement as on last moment they was forcing to stay on 40nm.. but well.


Back in Topic, as it's OEM cards only, im not really surprised, it's happend all the time (specially on Asian and russian market )...computers brand will not be pleased to use HD5xxx series on New Computers.

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[tiro_uspsss]

lets make a law: any marketing dept. caught re-naming gets fired!

oh & while we're at it, any marketing using fatality name rubbish gets fired too!

[MrMojoZ]

Isnt this what they also did with the 6970 and 6950? Arent they just renamed 5870s and 5850s?

You don't really think this, right?

[tool_462]

I just renamed "Playing Fallout 3 for 4 hours" to "doing the dishes and vacuuming the house." We'll see if that marketing works on my wife.

[Defoler]

I'm not sure why people are all fumed about.

It was known since the day they announced the 6xxx series, that the low end cards would be re-branded to the new brand, which is one of the reasons they moved the naming convention upward.

The 6770 is supposed to be replacing the 5670, by selling you a 5770.

Hell, I was surprised they didn't sell the 5870 as 6870 just for the kicks.

[RaV666]

I'm not sure why people are all fumed about.

It was known since the day they announced the 6xxx series, that the low end cards would be re-branded to the new brand, which is one of the reasons they moved the naming convention upward.

The 6770 is supposed to be replacing the 5670, by selling you a 5770.

Hell, I was surprised they didn't sell the 5870 as 6870 just for the kicks.

Not really,every segment gets new chip cores besides 57xx, and 57xx still has its name in retail.

[Pontos]

Mmh. Take it this way:

If you can flash the firmware of an HD5770 and get a fully functional and identically featured HD6770 (That is, HDMI 1.4a and the like), then you're dealing with a direct rebrand.
Example: Geforce 8800GTS 512mb -> 9800GTX -> GTS 250, lol

If you can't, then they did some minimal modifications to adapt the card to the HD6k series, thus not a rebrand.

[grimREEFER]

video playback question:

do these cards come with uvd 3.0 like the other 6000 series cards?
or uvd 2.2 like the original 5770 and 5750?

[DarthShader]

It's the same hardware as 57XX, as stated on the site.

[Chaserjzx100]

i thought we knew this months ago... on the cayman thread someone already said that they will rename 5770 for oem's

[cold2010]

HD 6770



http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1598136-1-1.html

Oct 13, 2009

[BeepBeep2]

Mmh. Take it this way:

If you can flash the firmware of an HD5770 and get a fully functional and identically featured HD6770 (That is, HDMI 1.4a and the like), then you're dealing with a direct rebrand.
Example: Geforce 8800GTS 512mb -> 9800GTX -> GTS 250, lol

If you can't, then they did some minimal modifications to adapt the card to the HD6k series, thus not a rebrand.

I know what I'm trying

[Tha Last Meal]

Oct 13, 2009

No comment HD 5770/HD 5750 = HD 6770/HD 6750 = AMD epic fail

[Final8ty]

[DarthShader]

No comment HD 5770/HD 5750 = HD 6770/HD 6750 = AMD epic fail

No way, I wouldn't have guessed! Especially after your lenghty first post and the footnotes in the official page, now having a big (OEM) next to the link to their respective pages...

[Tha Last Meal]

No comment Again

HD 6570 = HD 5570
HD 6670 = HD 5670
---------

HD 5570

400 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 650 MHz
Memory clock speed DDR3: 900 MHz
Memory bandwidth DDR3: 28.8 GB/s
1GB

HD 6570

480 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 650 MHz
Memory clock speed DDR3: 900 MHz
Memory bandwidth DDR3: 28.8 GB/s
2GB

---------
HD 5670

400 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 775 MHz
Memory clock speed: 1.0 GHz
Memory bandwidth: 64 GB/sec
1GB

HD 6670

480 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 800 MHz
Memory clock speed: 1.0 GHz
Memory bandwidth: 64 GB/sec
1GB

wt
why amd why

[DarthShader]

But this is TURKS! They will have UVD3 and are new, honest!

That would be the first sighting of Turks, thanks for the pics!

[h0bbes]

trying so hard..

[cold2010]

xfx hd 6770 and hd 6750 in the Market













http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/g...ries/6750.aspx


http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/g...ries/6770.aspx

hd 6750

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/XFX%20-%...xfx&cp=1&lp=10

[flexcore]

I stopped at Best Buy the other day(gift card) and they had xfx 6770 for $189.00. Same price as the xfx 5770 right next to it. Good bull !

[SKYMTL]

Wow. These should have NEVER been released into the retail channel...

[-Boris-]

No comment Again

HD 6570 = HD 5570
HD 6670 = HD 5670
---------

HD 5570

400 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 650 MHz
Memory clock speed DDR3: 900 MHz
Memory bandwidth DDR3: 28.8 GB/s
1GB

HD 6570

480 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 650 MHz
Memory clock speed DDR3: 900 MHz
Memory bandwidth DDR3: 28.8 GB/s
2GB

---------
HD 5670

400 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 775 MHz
Memory clock speed: 1.0 GHz
Memory bandwidth: 64 GB/sec
1GB

HD 6670

480 Stream Processing Units
Engine clock speed: 800 MHz
Memory clock speed: 1.0 GHz
Memory bandwidth: 64 GB/sec
1GB

wt
why amd why

Seriously?! Stop this bullcrap! The only things they have in common are frequencies and bus size. Shaders, TMUs, die-sizes, transistor count, they're all different!

Okay everyone. Let's explain. AMD has shifted it's namingscheme a bit. So highend isn't X870, it's X970, higher mid isn't X770, it's X870. That means that instead of each of those parts having twice the performance of the previous model with the same last three digits, it's now roughly the same during this shift in generations. 6800 isn't twice as fast as 5800 since 6800 isn't highend, which 5800 is.
Besides, not much has changed featurewise. So people wouldn't see the difference between an 5770 or a 6770 anyway even if the 6770 was a costly new design. So i'm perfectly fine with this. It's nothing compared to nVidias renaming where 9800GTS was an 8800GTS and performed worse than a 8800GTX in most scenarios.

So, when you're aiming for roughly the same performance as 5770. Is it that wrong to rename a chip when the differences in features are so small? Do you have any idea how much it costs to make a new chip with so small differences that people wouldn't notice them? Since AMD was forced to sit on 40nm another generation they need to cut costs, in the same time not much is changing featurewise between the two generations.


At the same time almost the entire nVidia 500 series is a rename! Only the GF110 based parts is different and optimized where the GF100 had to much junk consuming power. But look at these: GF104 -> GF114, GF106 -> GF116 and GF108 -> GF118. I dare you find any architectural differences between these chips except frequencies and the amount of activated TMUs and shaders. The GTX 560 TI is the rumored "full" GTX 460. GTS 550 is a GTS 450 with slightly changed frequencies, the same goes for GT 530 and GT 430. Since nVidia got caugth because of the codenames stayed the same, they started to relable codenames instead. And you all bougth it!

I can't see why people care so much over this perfectly legit name change and accuse AMD of being worse than nVidia when the entire lineup below GTX 570 is a rename!