AMD Launches HD 6770 AND HD 6750 (Rename!!)

[MrMojoZ]

[QUOTE=bhavv;4712765]Cool, new midrange cards from AMD.

Sarcasm?

[Mungri]

Sarcasm?

It was that obvious?

[MrMojoZ]

Nothing else made sense.

[zalbard]

I'll ask again : what *new" features would you get if AMD designed a new mid range DX11 800/720SP GPU @ 40nm with similar specs as Juniper?

UVD3 for video playback.
VLIW4 (Cayman) since it saves up die space while maintaining the same performance.
Hell, even Barts had some optimisations (tessellation and SPs) so it performed nearly as well as Cypress while being smaller and consuming less power...
This is just lazy. Shame on you, AMD.

[jeremyshaw]

Not so lazy, I guess. Some people missed the reading part

From the HD6770 page:
7.The AMD Radeon™ HD 6700 Series is based on the same hardware as the ATI Radeon™ HD 5700 Series, with added support for HDMI 1.4a for OEM customers.

[[XC] Oj101]

Some people missed the reading part

This has become the norm worldwide lately, any excuse to wield a pitchfork is good enough

[MrMojoZ]

Not so lazy, I guess. Some people missed the reading part

From the HD6770 page:
7.The AMD Radeon™ HD 6700 Series is based on the same hardware as the ATI Radeon™ HD 5700 Series, with added support for HDMI 1.4a for OEM customers.

See if you want to release a 5775 then call it so. I saw the 5870 to 6870 as perfectly legit jump, but a slightly newer HDMI standard should not get a generational model jump. AMD needs to leave that to nvidia.

[jeremyshaw]

See if you want to release a 5775 then call it so. I saw the 5870 to 6870 as perfectly legit jump, but a slightly newer HDMI standard should not get a generational model jump. AMD needs to leave that to nvidia.

Really? Some people saw the HD5770 as a cop-out by AMD... "nothing more than a HD4890 with a smaller bus and DX11"."

[zalbard]

Not so lazy, I guess. Some people missed the reading part

From the HD6770 page:
7.The AMD Radeon™ HD 6700 Series is based on the same hardware as the ATI Radeon™ HD 5700 Series, with added support for HDMI 1.4a for OEM customers.

Yeah, totally justifies a 1000 jump.
If so many people read about it (on XS!) this time, how many do you think are going to find this out just before the purchase?

[cegras]

UVD3 for video playback.
VLIW4 (Cayman) since it saves up die space while maintaining the same performance.
Hell, even Barts had some optimisations (tessellation and SPs) so it performed nearly as well as Cypress while being smaller and consuming less power...
This is just lazy. Shame on you, AMD.

VLIW4 is Cayman only. If they did tweak Juniper, it would be along Barts lines, not Cayman.

I don't think nvidia fanboys can be any happier at the present .. SiliconDoc must be slinging poop all over /g/.

[jeremyshaw]

Yeah, totally justifies a 1000 jump.
If so many people read about it (on XS!) this time, how many do you think are going to find this out just before the purchase?

People who care. If one of the purchasers were the people who believe a HD6870 was faster than a HD5870 without doing the research, I don't think the world lost anything valuable.

[initialised]

Still lazy, but no worse than the 8800GTS 512->9800GTX->GTS250 transition

[MrMojoZ]

Really? Some people saw the HD5770 as a cop-out by AMD... "nothing more than a HD4890 with a smaller bus and DX11"."

And those people were more than likely fanboys looking for something to cry about. You aren't allowed to have a thread about AMD products without someone trying to find something to tear down. See how a top end part in the 4890 had chip level features changed and it was demoted in the stock code stack? Thats the opposite of re-branding.

[DarthShader]

Not even a clock bump...

I blame nVidia and the failure of the GTS450 to deliver! /troll

Is this only for OEMs, or is the HDMI 1.4a addition only for OEMs?

[marten_larsson]

Bad AMD! This isn't OK. Would have been more appropriate to call it 6670 or something else...

[SKYMTL]

OFFICIAL WORD FROM AMD

OEM only folks, they will never make it to retail. AMD is in the process of updating their product page to reflect this.

[alucasa]

My assumption for AMD to rename 57xx series is that perhaps HD6xxx may have a short lifespan and that AMD decided that it isn't worth their efforts to create a new die for HD67xx series.

Having said that, HD5770, now HD6770, sits nicely between GTS 450 and GTX 460 with HD5750 now HD6750 matches GTS 450.

[marten_larsson]

OFFICIAL WORD FROM AMD

OEM only folks, they will never make it to retail. AMD is in the process of updating their product page to reflect this.

Makes a bit more sense.

[zalbard]

OFFICIAL WORD FROM AMD

OEM only folks, they will never make it to retail. AMD is in the process of updating their product page to reflect this.

So those pre-made Dells will still have these, huh? And most people who buy these have nfc about this situation...

[tajoh111]

I'd be upset if this were with a performance part instead of a gimpy mainstream one. The people effected by this aren't likely to complain--they just need simple to understand naming schemes. There are some exceptions (non-gamers on here for instance), but largely we're talking about the people who assume a 6000-series anything is going to be faster than any 5000-series card. You'd be surprised how often I get asked stuff such as: "Is a 5470 faster than a 4890?"

This is completely a mainstream part(not gimpy) and most likely to actually fall and care about this.

This excuse kind of worse when it was the x400 series but not the 6700 series. This is one of the largest markets and one of the least educated.

The enthusiast is more likely to checkout reviews and know about these type of changes. The $159 and under was where the 8800gt and it various renames fell under.

Why is AMD turning everything related to naming this generation deceptive? Everything from 6750 to 6970.

It seems like everything in regards to naming they want to put a deceptive twist on.

6800 series implies it is faster than 5800 series.
6900 series implies it is a dual card.
6700 series implies it a different card and is faster than it predecessor.

[MrMojoZ]

So those pre-made Dells will still have these, huh? And most people who buy these have nfc about this situation...

Those people want to know if it has "Windows Word" and how much it costs. They don't give a rats ass what video card is in there. OEM model numbers don't mean anything so this actually affects no one. Problem solved for me.

[SKYMTL]

So those pre-made Dells will still have these, huh? And most people who buy these have nfc about this situation...

Pretty much but from all my conversations over the past years with NVIDIA, AMD, Intel, etc about these non-retail channel parts, the renaming always happens at the behest of OEMs.

[zalbard]

Pretty much but from all my conversations over the past years with NVIDIA, AMD, Intel, etc about these non-retail channel parts, the renaming always happens at the behest of OEMs.

Yeah, looks it, actually. We had 5550 rebranded to 6390 in Russia by some OEMs, lol.

[DarthShader]

OFFICIAL WORD FROM AMD

OEM only folks, they will never make it to retail. AMD is in the process of updating their product page to reflect this.

That settles it, thanks.

Poor thread starter, put so much work in his post... reading footnotes would be more economical use of time. :p

[~CS~]

I have this nagging suspicion that the threadstarter is actually Chinese, but trying so hard to pretend to be westernized. ugh.

Not just that,but I looked at his posting history and only thing he does is hypes Nvidia and posts negative things about ATI/AMD,nothing else period...


On topic: wish they didn't have to do it,but I don't care that much either way.