today amd Launches HD 6770 AND HD 6750 but Unfortunately These cards Rename for old card (HD 5770/HD5750)
hd 6770
hd 5770
hd 6750
hd 5750
hd 6770
76.8 GB/s memory bandwidth (maximum)
hd 5770
76.8 GB/s memory bandwidth
hd 6750
73.6 GB/s memory bandwidth
hd 5750
73.6 GB/s memory bandwidth
this is bad
amd epic fail
ShameI was hoping the 67xx was gonna bring some small power increases and power consumption decreases
Originally Posted by T_M
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Uhm - its probably not a direct rename - they added DX11 and OpenCL to these...and they need a product that sits below the 6850...and they need to phase out the 5xxx series.
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Who cares? You wanted them to design a whole new chip in order to slide it under 6870/6850? That would be colossal waste of time and money.They already have the chip that fits perfectly in that performance segment,it's called Juniper... It has already proved itself on the market,why re-invent the wheel then? Makes zero sense ,no matter how you look at it.
AMD will do whole line-up refresh on 28nm,then you will have "brand new" mid range card(that will probably spank 6870/5850 ).
hd57xx ist already dx11 & opelcl. its just a simple rename. its the same chip.
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Why change the Names ؟؟؟
5xxx had a complete DX11 lineup
UVD2.0 tells us that it's the same chip
but i don't think that it's suprising; juniper is a very small chip and highly competitive against GTS 450 (it completely destroys all 450 editions at the same price point); even a new 550 won't be able to touch it
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Shame on AMD!!!
Because it's called marketing. AMD's latest lineup is named 6xxx,they can't have products with different names.This way it's easy for potential buyer: 67xx<68xx<69xx<6990.Prices and names are in line with performance.
What *new" features would you get if AMD designed a new mid range DX11 800/720SP GPU with similar specs as Juniper? Answer :nothing. Then why do it in the first place? (rhetorical question)
This HD6K series is a great deception ... HD5K was so good ...
Please guys concentrate ! When Stream Processors come with the same Number (800) and When Texture Units come with the same Number (40) and When Z/Stencil ROP Units come with the same Number (64) and When memory bandwidth come with the same Number (76.8 GB/s for hd 6770/hd 5770 and 73.6 GB/s for hd 6750/hd 5750) and Both card use the same core clock and the same chip .... This is called rename!Uhm - its probably not a direct rename
So it dont have hdmi 1.4? If it does then I dont care
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1.4a, while the 5700s were 1.3 (no bluray 3D). Bingo.
Not that I agree with any of it though, I thought it would be 69->68->66...
I have this nagging suspicion that the threadstarter is actually Chinese, but trying so hard to pretend to be westernized. ugh.
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This worse than NVs rebrands as those at least had some minor changes for the most part
Seems we made our greatest error when we named it at the start
for though we called it "Human Nature" - it was cancer of the heart
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Maybe we just "Flash" the HD5770/HD5750 the VBIOS with HD6770/HD6750 , and get HDMI 1.4 native support wtih HD5k family ?
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I'll ask again : what *new" features would you get if AMD designed a new mid range DX11 800/720SP GPU @ 40nm with similar specs as Juniper?fixed
This worse than NVs rebrands as those at least had some minor changes for the most part
I'd be upset if this were with a performance part instead of a gimpy mainstream one. The people effected by this aren't likely to complain--they just need simple to understand naming schemes. There are some exceptions (non-gamers on here for instance), but largely we're talking about the people who assume a 6000-series anything is going to be faster than any 5000-series card. You'd be surprised how often I get asked stuff such as: "Is a 5470 faster than a 4890?"
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This worse than NVs rebrands as those at least had some minor changes for the most part
how can nvidia's rebrands be more ok ... LOLL
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Because the nvidia rebrands were on high end cards that were sold for top dollar. Oh wait that kinda make it worse. Never mind.
Also, this type of rebranding should never be done by any company. Marketing isn't an excuse for misleading model numbers.
What aty rebranding. Unless they plan to seriously knock off prices it's really bad as it's a direct transfer. Usually if they do rename, they move "last year" top models into "this year" mid end models. Not from mid end to supposedly another mid end...
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exactly .. amd's rebrand isnt ok .... but its in no way worse then nvidia's rebrands ...
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Cool, new midrange cards from AMD.
Anyone want to upgrade their 5770s to the new 6770s? I would have done if I had waited longer for the awesome new 6770 cards before getting 460s.
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