Run it with AVX(win 7 SP1) otherwise is useless
Run it with AVX(win 7 SP1) otherwise is useless
There comes a point where you simply have to say "enough is enough." Just because everything except AVX with LinX passes doesn't mean that you're unstable. If every other normal program on the planet passes, including folding, except programs designed to abuse chips, then does that mean that people need to degrade their chips more, just to make that pass? If a program comes out that uses AVX and you're stable in it, I think you can just call it a day. Sometimes, you just have to know when to give. Unless your CPU is used only for benching and stress testing, of course.
What if the author of BurnBX came back and wrote a tester that heated the CPU 10C higher than AVX, and caused all the AVX stable systems to crash and burn? Does that suddenly mean you're not stable anymore? (if anyone even remembers BurnBX here, it would heat up P3's 15C hotter than Prime did in those days...I believe it used very short, extremely cache intensive programming loops, hitting the CPU *hard*. If anyone remembers that one Intel "Thermal Analysis Tool" that used to work with core 2 duos (but not yorks/wolfs) and the mobile versions, the torture test button in that did a similar thing temp wise, but was coded differently (and it was different than linpack).
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I think it makes sense. I would just use Prime for an hour or two and if it passes, I'll start playing my games, etc. If no hangs, blue screens or whatever it is, that setting should be good enough. The problem is we have too many stress test around these days and to get all of them to pass might be a challenge sometimes.
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stress testing sort of caters to an obsessive/compulsive part of the brain, where you feel you have to keep running over and over, to be satisfied that you're stable, and then you feel afraid that you got unstable after all that testing so you run AGAIN.
The bad part is, some of us ARE OCD--like me--and this just makes us break our hardware even more....
Well put Falkentyne, there still is NO ultimate stress tool... on X58 Prime blend ( 6 hours ) and LinX 50 loop stable... yet Hyperpi 32m ( 12 threads) freezes after loop 2 , Bad company kicks me to desktop,....lol.... daily stability is what you need, not some silly Gflop screenshot...
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Actual load vCore was 1.368v
Probably means you need to increase the vcore about 0.015 notches.
Though frankly why are you running so many passes?
And that's a great cpu. Stop torturing it with LinX AVA or you'll see that vcore rise. Sorry if I asked this before (I asked a few people), but what's the default VID shown in the BIOS (usually under "target") at 3.4 ghz, and at 5 ghz? I'm curious.
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Just saw he had HT off. Would be a lot more interesting with HT on.
I might be able to do AVX on my chip with HT off too, with around 1.4v load vcore.
vCores is 1.368v not the 1.39X show by CPU-Z, I'm only using LCC at 75% that gives me that drop between load and idle, but prevent me from getting random BSOD's on normal daily tasks.
It run's 5.1 with only 1.416v .
HT with 1st SB linpacks ~80Gflops were verry easy to pass. With new linpack ~110Gflops they got a bit harder, but It will do it around 1.38v I guess
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EDIT: In light of my page-reloading failure, I am editing to include my thoughts on the stress testing bit.
I found starting with LinX AVX to be the best bet, and it was the most likely to pass 20 runs for me. 3 times I passed on what I thought was a stable clock and then failed prime blend in <1 hr.
Now my stress testing goes as follows:
LinX AVX 20 pass * --> prime small fft 4hr** --> prime blend 8hr --> 3dmark11 extreme 2-4hr
*use as much ram as you can w/o swapping (14gb for me)
**impatient, run longer if you like
You would be surprised what passes LinX AVX and then gets destroyed by small fft or blend .
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The only way you can do that is with manual volts. VID is sort of the asked voltage for that Mhz and workload, so if you push him more at the same Mhz the VID will also go up.
^^ what he said.
And Stoned, did you miss my first post above? You replied to the second one though.
I was asking,
what is the default VID of your golden CPU, when it is set to X34 in the BIOS? The vid is to the left of the voltage selection area, (not the health monitoring vcore), and the VID is what the CPU will select for voltage if it were set to auto volts (example VID could show 1.21v even though you set the vcore manually to 1.3v, for instance
Also, what is the default VID showing when you set it to 5 ghz?
I'm just curious about your chip.
Thanks.
For the 5G is what it was in the PS 1.37v I think, but when loaded he will ask for a bit more 1.39(?). Default VID is high nevertheless around 1.25v. This as the voltages shown by CT, but in the bios with multi 34, it's around 1.23v
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Just upgraded my 7 to SP1 but looks like AVX still wont work.. how can i get it work??
Current setting is totally Linx stable, but havent tested it with AVX..
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