AMD Phenom II X4 975 BE & X4 840 Reviews

[onethreehill]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...rs-review.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=1092
http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom...dition-review/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1507/1/

[gallag]

Wow, sandy bridge really took the buzz out of this launch.

[DarthShader]

102$ for a quad core. :O

Would be a really nice option IF there were AM3+ boards already available...

[sutyi]

Wonder how a 3.2GHz part without any L3 cache ended up in the Phenom II X4 800 series, since all the previous 800 models still had 4MB of L3 cache.

Parts without L3 cache were in the Athlon II bin.

[freeloader]

With the launch of Sandy Bridge yesterday, I don't think many people around here will care about these AMD offerings. Good chips for upgrade if you already have a dual core AM3 setup, but that's about it.

[Mechromancer]

Some reviewers lumped these CPUs into their Sandy Bridge reviews. Tech Report being one of them.

[BeepBeep2]

Including SuperPi 32M into reviews comparing AMD and intel is just...well stupid.

[richierich]

Including SuperPi 32M into reviews comparing AMD and intel is just...well stupid.

No it's not. I use SuperPi everyday.

[JkS]

No it's not. I use SuperPi everyday.

He ment comparing AMD to Intel not AMD to AMD or Intel to Intel. So I agree with him.

[richierich]

He ment comparing AMD to Intel not AMD to AMD or Intel to Intel. So I agree with him.

And I was joking. lol.

[Chrono Detector]

Meh, nothing new really, I would rather see them increase the cache instead of clock speed.

[JkS]

And I was joking. lol.

Sorry I didn't sense the sarcasm, tough day at work :P

Anyway, I'm suprised that the 840BE is just a Propus, although it still performs relatively well and isn't bad for a $100 QC.
I'm wishing bulldozer would come sooner, because all the Sandy Bridge hype and praise is making AMD seem like they are lurking in the shadows.

EDIT: hopefully the Antillies hype will start to gloss over the Sandy Bridge hype

[FlanK3r]

OC x4 975 Looks good, series with DPM looks promising...

[Chaserjzx100]

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well they have this fusion hype going on for netbooks right now....

[Glow9]

Wow, sandy bridge really took the buzz out of this launch.

Whats to get excited about every couple months AMD puts out a new chip with 100 more Mhz not really anything special just generally good value chips. It's just too bad they don't get more cache or anything else significantly different over a year. Maybe if they did something new besides make us wait for bulldozer they would deserve more attention.

[Manicdan]

Whats to get excited about every couple months AMD puts out a new chip with 100 more Mhz not really anything special just generally good value chips. It's just too bad they don't get more cache or anything else significantly different over a year. Maybe if they did something new besides make us wait for bulldozer they would deserve more attention.

like +2.4ghz NB at stock would be nice

but this one was kinda in reverse. is this the first ever Phenom without L3?

[Loque]

AMD needs to find a way to crossfire their cpus to beat intel :p

[freeloader]

AMD needs to find a way to crossfire their cpus to beat intel :p

Hehehe....I like that.

Whats to get excited about every couple months AMD puts out a new chip with 100 more Mhz not really anything special just generally good value chips. It's just too bad they don't get more cache or anything else significantly different over a year. Maybe if they did something new besides make us wait for bulldozer they would deserve more attention.

AMD doesn't have enough engineering resources to improve the core. I would imagine every resource available is working on BD/Fusion/etc...

[BrowncoatGR]

AMD needs to find a way to crossfire their cpus to beat intel :p

Multi-CPU systems have been around a lot longer than multi-GPU ones. Problem is most desktop software doesn't scale well beyond 2-4 threads

AMD doesn't have enough engineering resources to improve the core. I would imagine every resource available is working on BD/Fusion/etc...

Well they went from 4 to 6 cores, I'd call that significant. It makes no sense to make significant changes to Ph2 when Llano is just around the corner

[xdan]

X4 840 even at 102$ i useless now.
I3 2100 at 117$ is gave him hard times in games, and even in multitasking is too close. The power consumption is 50% less in load for i3 2100, so i wouldn't buy this Phenom for nothing...

[gallag]

X4 840 even at 102$ i useless now.
I3 2100 at 117$ is gave him hard times in games, and even in multitasking is too close. The power consumption is 50% less in load for i3 2100, so i wouldn't buy this Phenom for nothing...

To be fair the x4840 would still be a good buy if you are not running at stock, It would oc while the i3 2100 will not, So AMD is still a viable way to go for the extreme budget overclocker, Just a pity that group of people would not be very big.

[Nintendork]

PII 840 is faster in cinebench, faster in any multicore aware program. You don't play at low settings.

The heavy task in x264 it's done on the 2nd pass:




Good cherry peak xdan. At least use benchs/programs were the cores work if you want to be taken seriously.

Then techreport uses a windows movie marker who doesn't seem to scale with the cores of the X6? Handbrake is a way better option.

[jeremyshaw]

To be fair the x4840 would still be a good buy if you are not running at stock, It would oc while the i3 2100 will not, So AMD is still a viable way to go for the extreme budget overclocker, Just a pity that group of people would not be very big.

Yeah, I agree. Intel no longer has a grip on the low end market if they continue on this path. But that was never really Intel's stomping ground, to begin with (save the Atom).

[Clairvoyant129]

PII 840 is faster in cinebench, faster in any multicore aware program. You don't play at low settings.

The heavy task in x264 it's done on the 2nd pass:




Good cherry peak xdan. At least use benchs/programs were the cores work if you want to be taken seriously.

Then techreport uses a windows movie marker who doesn't seem to scale with the cores of the X6? Handbrake is a way better option.

So what if it scales with X6? 1100T is still slower than the 200 USD i5 2500k.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=203

[Manicdan]

To be fair the x4840 would still be a good buy if you are not running at stock, It would oc while the i3 2100 will not, So AMD is still a viable way to go for the extreme budget overclocker, Just a pity that group of people would not be very big.

whats the max OC on the 2100 anyway?
and how cheap of a motherboard can you get for the intel chip that allows OCing?

i think these are no where near comparable. SB is easier and just fine for single threaded things, but the phenom is still very strong and very worthwhile.