Rapid Restarts?

[ScottALot]

First, the specs.

i7 930
MSi Big Bang Xpower
2x 500GB Western Digital Caviar Black
XFX 750W PSU
Mushkin 6GB DDR3 Redline
GPU Explained Below

So I got the system together minus the GPU and OS. I have a 9800GT in my other rig, so I grabbed that and hooked it up to the system to see if the computer worked. The motherboard's LEDs lit up, but there was no post code for a while until the speaker made a beep about 8 seconds later. I looked at the post code and it said 85 or B5 or BS or 8S, who knows. As I got out the manual, the speaker made another beep or possibly two really rapid beeps. Then it shut down, so I thought "Ah, it must've been 85 talking about CPU temp! JESUS, OTP must've kicked in.". However, OTP keeps the computer shut down, correct? The computer came back on to my surprise and shut off after about 3 seconds... and repeated that until I shut the PSU off. I thought maybe I hit the OC Genie button because that causes rapid restarts (I think...). The OC Genie button was OFF! What's going on here?

Other notes: I know I was using the correct CPU 8-pin... had to check XFX's website, so I know it's correct. No signal to the monitor, but if it makes any difference, I was using a DVI to VGA adapter.

Please if someone could either help me here or send me a PM with an instant messenger username, that'd be fantastic.

[Boulard83]

Try reseat the CPU.

Be sure that every mobo connector ( CPU 8pin, 24pin, others ) are correctly plugged.

Check the Memory for Miss installation to.

[Sadasius]

Make sure you had put stand-off's on the motherboard tray. Sounds like a short of some sort. You may laugh but I know a guy who made that mistake being in a hurry.

[Boulard83]

Make sure you had put stand-off's on the motherboard tray. Sounds like a short of some sort. You may laugh but I know a guy who made that mistake being in a hurry.

Good point

[ScottALot]

I really don't want to take the whole computer apart again... so reseating the CPU will have to wait 'til last.
I'm using an XSPC Rasa, how tight to I need to tighten the screws?

EDIT: I put every single mobo standoff save one... you think it really could be that one?

[Boulard83]

No, he just wanted to know if you used standoff. No standoff is bad

To prevent it from posting, you have to overthight the Block alot.

If your sure that every plug is safe and secure into the mobo, reseating and checking the CPU/bloc contact is your best bet. Its not that hard

[ScottALot]

No, he just wanted to know if you used standoff. No standoff is bad

To prevent it from posting, you have to overthight the Block alot.

If your sure that every plug is safe and secure into the mobo, reseating and checking the CPU/bloc contact is your best bet. Its not that hard

Rephrase myself: I forgot one standoff. That could be the issue?

I'll reseat the memory, but the thing with reseating the CPU is that I'd have to remove the block... and I just got done getting the air bubbles out of the loop.

Also, for top-mounted radiators, I know it's procedure to turn the case upside down, but I've shook the case for a looong time and nothing is coming out, so I'm pretty sure there aren't any bubbles left.

Another thing, when I squeeze the tubing, it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of pressure...

[Boulard83]

You see the water movement in the res ?

How did you bleed the loop ?

And you dont need to unplug your hose the remove the waterbloc. Just unscrew it and leave the tube connected.

[ScottALot]

You see the water movement in the res ?

It kinda shakes a little, but it's not like a cyclone or anything.

How did you bleed the loop ?

Left it running for several, then came back and squeezed the tubing where bubbles were, leading them to the reservoir (uncapped). Then I tilted the case and rocked it a bit, then left it alone again for a few hours.

And you dont need to unplug your hose the remove the waterbloc. Just unscrew it and leave the tube connected.

Oh durp, I was thinking the wrong way.

Another note: The TIM I'm using is Shin Etsu ... the specific number is like X238 or something. It's very thick, like putty... not like the AS5 I used on a different rig, but this promises better temps.

[Boulard83]

You left it running. The whole computer or just the loop ?

As for the shin etsu, i never used it. but if its quite "hard" you may need to spread it before placing the bloc. And DONT use to much.

[ScottALot]

You left it running. The whole computer or just the loop ?

As for the shin etsu, i never used it. but if its quite "hard" you may need to spread it before placing the bloc. And DONT use to much.

Naw, I use about between a rice and BB-sized piece.
Just the loop, I have the 24-pin jumpered.

[Boulard83]

My next guess is to take a look at the CPU. Just unscrew your mounting, leave tubing on the bloc.

This mobo/cpu was working before WCing ?

[ScottALot]

Never used the stuff... the motherboard is used and was packaged impeccably, so I don't think it's the mobo. I'm going to wait until I get my MSi 460 Hawk before I continue troubleshooting, but any other possibilities are appreciated.

[Boulard83]

Happy new year for now

Im off and i have a big night coming.

[matari]

Sounds like your cpu or mobo is fried. Did you plug in your cpu power? Did you use esd protection? If so maybe you have a leak.

[ScottALot]

I'm not so sure about that... I'm getting a boot, LEDs light up, and a post code or temp, not sure. CPU power is plugged in.

Another note I've thought about: I'm using extensions for the cables. I'll try using the bare PSU cables as well during the troubleshooting.

As for ESD protection, I carried everything using the electro-static bags, not sure if that helps or not. Assembly was in a basement with a cold stone floor, so I don't think I got any static electricity.

Huge note: Stock backplate was on already, but I found the backplate with the block fit over it easily... was I supposed to use both?

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[Holst]

If you are using a P80P diagnostic card then 85 is a memory related code.

Try booting with only one stick of ram, clear the CMOS.
Otherwise it could be CPU or motherboard.

Building a new rig into your case with perfect wiring and watercooling is always a mistake.
I always build up a new rig with the motherboard rested on a large book (yellow pages or phone book) just to make sure that the new components work ok. Once you know its all good then you can take your time with your case installation. I know its a bit late for this now as you have installed everything, but its worth remembering for the future.

You contact patch on your CPU looks a bit rubbish but it wont be bad enough to cause any problems.

[ScottALot]

If you are using a P80P diagnostic card then 85 is a memory related code.

Try booting with only one stick of ram, clear the CMOS.
Otherwise it could be CPU or motherboard.

Building a new rig into your case with perfect wiring and watercooling is always a mistake.
I always build up a new rig with the motherboard rested on a large book (yellow pages or phone book) just to make sure that the new components work ok. Once you know its all good then you can take your time with your case installation. I know its a bit late for this now as you have installed everything, but its worth remembering for the future.

You contact patch on your CPU looks a bit rubbish but it wont be bad enough to cause any problems.

P80P diagnostic card? I'm just using the stock MSi Big Bang XPower post LED.

It'd be nice to exclude RAM from the troubleshooting, thanks for that suggestion!

I did like you said with my first rig, but this one was too beautiful not to see right away

Yeah I agree with you there... not enough spread, so I might just use a different TIM so it actually spreads out more with the pressure.

[Johnny87au]

Mind posting the LED error code your getting??

[ScottALot]

...post code and it said 85 or B5 or BS or 8S, who knows. As I got out the manual, the speaker made another beep or possibly two really rapid beeps...

That's all I have for a diagnostic from the board.

[Johnny87au]

That's all I have for a diagnostic from the board.

I cant find anything, Is the speaker making any more noises?? Or just the one ?

[ScottALot]

I cant find anything, Is the speaker making any more noises?? Or just the one ?

Just a regular post beep, but then right before it started rapidly restarting, it made a beep that sounded like two normal beeps combined.

[Martinm210]

I had a similar issue a couple months ago. It turned out to be my OCZ PSU was dying. Only way to test that was to borrow the PSU out of my son's computer and it fixed the problem. I ended up throwing the OCZ in the trash and bought a new Corsair.

Mine was sort of randomly just turning off, sometimes at post, sometimes in windows, and sometimes repeatedly at boot. The PSU wasn't that old either, only about 2 years was all it lasted.

[Johnny87au]

Just a regular post beep, but then right before it started rapidly restarting, it made a beep that sounded like two normal beeps combined.

Ok so the pc boots up and posts and keeps restarting, Im trying to narrow it down so u dont have to remove hardware but kinda hard as it could be multiple things.. You using latest bios ? Your gonna have to trial and error my friend.. problem wont just go away on its own unless you fiddle around with the hardware to narrow down the problem

[ScottALot]

I had a similar issue a couple months ago. It turned out to be my OCZ PSU was dying. Only way to test that was to borrow the PSU out of my son's computer and it fixed the problem. I ended up throwing the OCZ in the trash and bought a new Corsair.

Mine was sort of randomly just turning off, sometimes at post, sometimes in windows, and sometimes repeatedly at boot. The PSU wasn't that old either, only about 2 years was all it lasted.

I've heard OCZ not to be a great PSU manufacturer... but mines an XFX brand, so I sure hope it's not that. However, if it does end up being the PSU, it'd be more convenient than pretty much any other component.

Ok so the pc boots up and posts and keeps restarting, Im trying to narrow it down so u dont have to remove hardware but kinda hard as it could be multiple things.. You using latest bios ? Your gonna have to trial and error my friend.. problem wont just go away on its own unless you fiddle around with the hardware to narrow down the problem

This computer is brand new to me, I'll contact the previous board user to see if he updated the BIOS. Trial and error will have to wait until I get my GPU which is going to be longer than expected. I'm just trying to find out if I made a mistake that someone will recognize and be able to diagnose on the spot.