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    I would say i could nick the corners on about 1000 cards easy in a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamHughe View Post
    We really need more competition in this business. We shouldn't have to choose between these two dumb ass companies.
    What are the other alternatives? Intel makes garbage graphics chips.

    PowerVR makes some decent ones but they're low power. There's S3 graphics but they're not that powerful and the drivers aren't so great.

    Right now, I don't see any alternative to the two dum dums running things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epsilon84 View Post
    LOL I must admit that's pretty funny. Probably not to the AMD employees filing off the corners though! :p
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    Nvidia and AMD have to much momentum , noone else can enter within a release cycle and making something competitive and profitable ahead of time is very difficult , Intel tried once in the past and by the time they had something it was outdated Intel 740, ( I remeber intel demo with some dolphins running on Intel 740 it was under 30fps ) then they tried again recently with "Larrabee" and plain out canceled it. Now its some HTC ? addon card noone cares for.

    Now making hardware is one thing but you also need big driver software development team. That is keeping up with progressing technologies.

    In short there won't be any more competition , it can get worse , can go from two options to choose to only one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sin0822 View Post
    doesn't AMD outsource production so their quality control wouldn't be that great? I am asking.
    Design Issue, not production



    I'd say the problem was found too late for that revision.. many PCB's made already so resort to a Mod while someones head rolls.

    I'm sure there'll be a Rev 1.1 or something soon (moving the plug as someone suggested)

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    whoever did the original cad probably got fired

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD View Post
    Design Issue, not production



    I'd say the problem was found too late for that revision.. many PCB's made already so resort to a Mod while someones head rolls.

    I'm sure there'll be a Rev 1.1 or something soon (moving the plug as someone suggested)
    How do you know that, it could have still been a production issue as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    How do you know that, it could have still been a production issue as well
    He knows because he has an opinion on the internet.
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    chiphell's mod is nv fanboy, there's a prove

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    Quote Originally Posted by mao5 View Post
    chiphell's mod is nv fanboy, there's a prove

    Oh yes, that image help me a lot, now I have no doubts

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD View Post
    Design Issue, not production



    I'd say the problem was found too late for that revision.. many PCB's made already so resort to a Mod while someones head rolls.

    I'm sure there'll be a Rev 1.1 or something soon (moving the plug as someone suggested)
    I suggested that and got owned, you might wanna take it back! lol. I am sure it is easier to have people polish the heatsinks by hand. Who even said that? Why wouldn't they just use a machine like a belt sander?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mao5 View Post
    chiphell's mod is nv fanboy, there's a prove
    Actually chiphell is made of ATI/AMD fanboys. This time the mod jumped ship maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper_sung View Post
    Actually chiphell is made of ATI/AMD fanboys. This time the mod jumped ship maybe
    he jumped the ship for almost 1 and half year, the famous word he said is that " AMD is a company running by peasants"

    so without peasants, what does chiphell's mod eat ? the shiitt from NV?
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    hHAHa I didn't see that is awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by sin0822 View Post
    hHAHa I didn't see that was from an nvidia account that is priceless.
    No that's not from an nvidia account. It's showing that nvidia is forwarding the thread inside the company. Look into the message which at the beginning points to the URL of the original thread.

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    gotcha that is what I figured, I guess if i was them I woudl do the same. You know I bet things like this happen all the time, well not to this extent but its funny how people really took note.

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    nvidia u serious, kinda low of them..

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltZ View Post
    whoever did the original cad probably got fired
    Doesn't Sapphire do the reference designs?
    Sigs are obnoxious.

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    How is it clearly a design issue? Well, Lets see..

    The problem is a connector interfering with the Fan blade..

    Manufacturers don't just put whatever connector, Fan, HSF they feel like, where they feel like..

    The position of the holes in the PCB for the connector, and the type of connector (dimensions etc) are all specified by the engineering dept.

    Same applies for the HSF and fan assembly itself. Do you think the OEM would accept a HSF assembly from its manufacturer with a fan in the wrong spot??? I think not. If the Design is right, and tollerences are achievable by the manufacturers of the various parts (PCB, Assembly, HSF) then you cannot go wrong.

    Probably Some sort of last minute change to one or the other (PCB or Fan assembly) has clearly occured, and not be communicated between the two teams properly
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    And this is a big deal because ... ?
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    ...some people do not like hand modded cards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solus Corvus View Post
    Lol. ATI your next task is to make me a hand assembled 6990 using only wire wraps.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ormat_1977.jpg
    Holy sh*t. There is only ONE possible reason on earth why a wire-wrap card like that could exist....

    crystal meth.

    Reminds me of my friends neighbor who has spent the past 9 months rebuilding his Ford Mustang's engine, typically between the hours of 11pm and 5am.... every.... single... night. For reference, I recently rebuilt the engine from neighbors mustang with the past generations 4.6L engine, and it took me two full weekends and about two hours each afternoon on weekdays after work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    And this is a big deal because ... ?
    Two things come to mind when such a question is posed.

    1. wood screws
    2. hypocracy

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