AMD is stupid if they paid a lot of money for the "corner cutting". I'm sure if they handed flyers on these kind of forums they'd find thousands of fanboys willing to "cut corners" for free.
AMD is stupid if they paid a lot of money for the "corner cutting". I'm sure if they handed flyers on these kind of forums they'd find thousands of fanboys willing to "cut corners" for free.
Guess AMD is cutting corners too, sometimes literally.
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Lol, why is AMD referred to as "农企"? Only peasants use AMD products?
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Does anyone have more clear photos of the actual interference? It seems to me it could touch the fan casing, but the blades look a little far away....
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hah, wow this is so embarrassing...
how could they have overlooked something like this?
man, whats going on at amd/ati?
they go for a chip the same size of cypress aiming for 480 performance when they must have KNOWN nvidia will have something faster at the end of the year, and then they cant even get the card sizes and diameters right?
Human Error - this being part of robotized mass production, the guy (probably a saboteur from nVidia) who inserted the commands got it wrong... and by time they got to assembly, who knows how many batches have they made...
Normally, this batches should have been tagged as "BAD" and make new ones instead, at least that's what some brands do to preserve their image... but guess AMD is on a tight budget if they end-up "fixing them - by this approach" instead of replacing them.
Correction - it's a flaw in design, so it's not the guy who inserted the commands for mass production. But still a human error - yet still a cheap approach, since they could have replace it with a new component yet they had to solder it manually - which is a longer and more expensive process... yet now one which AMD couldn't afford in terms of "budget" - more like a "time issue".
FAIL!
Unbelievable but this explains a lot. No wonder bulldozer is 2 years late.
These "shocked" posts are reminiscent of celebrity gossip news. The pointlessness of the news is equivalent and the reactions are just as exaggerated.
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As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Yeah, who needs news.
it looks like a "hotfix" LOL
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Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Nvidia showed a fake card at a tech conference. ATI quietly delayed their launch, fixed the problem, then launched in volume.
Actually, no I didn't. Your over eagerness to hate on ATI shows in the fact that you didn't even spend a modicum of brain power to compare and contrast the different situations.
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Intel's atom is a terrible chip.
What!? - you mean, you buy a card for what it can do, not for how it looks? You're weird man! Performance is one thing - but usually in this price range the card esthetics is just as important, if not more...
To bad they're not gold plated - not so shiny!!! SHHHHINYY!!
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looks like they buffed off a few shaders to
whatever really its no biggy. the cards still work right? i think they took the right approach....looks like a simple fix rather than cutting the cooler shroud or re soldering the socket.
im sure this wasnt the main cause of the delay
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