***Official***Z68X/P67A-UD7 Club/Discussion/Info**

[the_real_7]

why is the reason gigabyte still using the 1 10 llc has it proven better than the ll1 and llc2 , and if so when and how ? maybe tomorrow ill try new bios out

stasio the new et6 works only for newer bios ?

im using LLC1 on BIOS F3H



should be there a programming statement separting bios version under F4 to assign LLC1/LLC2 and rest LLC1---LLC10

cheers !
Sergio

[owikh84]

2271MHz 7-10-7-27 @ 1.68v vdimm; 1.1v vtt

[andressergio]

2271MHz 7-10-7-27 @ 1.68v vdimm; 1.1v vtt

owi

[andressergio]

Finally was able to get 05 to finnish 1 time before flashing back from z68 bios.

This bios seems to score about the same as the others.

thats a great score i think i will have to give a try on my 570's

[hirsch]

I've big problems getting my UD7 B3/i7 2600k OC stable. I boot at x50 (no problem) but when I put some load on it (latest version of LinX) my Vcore drops from 1.53 to 1.45V, NOTICE that this is with LLC enable and at level 7. It dosent mather which frequency/LLC level it is, it still happends.

But with stock settings (optimized default) the vcore is deadly stable... Guess I'm missing something?

I'm monitoring with the latest version of EasyTune6 (HW monitor).

System specification:
i7 2600k
UD7 B3
A-DATA XPG+ 1866MHz CL8
Crucial C300 64GB
MSI N480GTX Lightning
Be-Quiet P8 1200w

[andressergio]

I've big problems getting my UD7 B3/i7 2600k OC stable. I boot at x50 (no problem) but when I put some load on it (latest version of LinX) my Vcore drops from 1.53 to 1.45V, NOTICE that this is with LLC enable and at level 7. It dosent mather which frequency/LLC level it is, it still happends.

But with stock settings (optimized default) the vcore is deadly stable... Guess I'm missing something?

I'm monitoring with the latest version of EasyTune6 (HW monitor).

System specification:
i7 2600k
UD7 B3
A-DATA XPG+ 1866MHz CL8
Crucial C300 64GB
MSI N480GTX Lightning
Be-Quiet P8 1200w

go F3H BIOS and u will be fine

[Falkentyne]

You guys should ask Gigabyte to improve the OLD LLC1 and put back the OLD LLC2. It's FAR More reliable than the multi step LLC. Multi step is erratic and has weird spikes once you go past level 6. Level 5 is WORSE than the old LLC1 at higher vcores, but at lower vcores, level 5 has less droop at idle or in BIOS (like around 1.25v). Level 6 is closest to the old LLC1, but this only applies to higher voltages...at 1.25v, LLC6 is better than the old LLC1, at 1.45v its slightly worse (some spikes at idle to HIGHER than BIOS setting, load drops about the same). The old LLC2 is predictable and the best; idle voltage is always about 0.015v higher than what you set in the BIOS, and load is about 0.015v higher than idle...while not perfect like having same voltage idle->load without spikes, at least the old LLC2 is predictable and you know what you're getting. The new LLC7+ is bad...the voltage spikes high at light load, then drops back to what the idle voltage was at full load...

The old LLC2 keeps the bios ->idle->load vcore formula across almost all voltages, unlike LLC1, so it IS possible for GB to improve the old LLC1....multi step version is trash....you guys with contact with GB should ask them to fix the old LLC1 and keep old LLC2....

Only problem with old LLC2 is avoiding idle 0x124 BSOD, so you'll need a little more vcore than what you would normally need for full load.

[andressergio]

You guys should ask Gigabyte to improve the OLD LLC1 and put back the OLD LLC2. It's FAR More reliable than the multi step LLC. Multi step is erratic and has weird spikes once you go past level 6. Level 5 is WORSE than the old LLC1 at higher vcores, but at lower vcores, level 5 has less droop at idle or in BIOS (like around 1.25v). Level 6 is closest to the old LLC1, but this only applies to higher voltages...at 1.25v, LLC6 is better than the old LLC1, at 1.45v its slightly worse (some spikes at idle to HIGHER than BIOS setting, load drops about the same). The old LLC2 is predictable and the best; idle voltage is always about 0.015v higher than what you set in the BIOS, and load is about 0.015v higher than idle...while not perfect like having same voltage idle->load without spikes, at least the old LLC2 is predictable and you know what you're getting. The new LLC7+ is bad...the voltage spikes high at light load, then drops back to what the idle voltage was at full load...

The old LLC2 keeps the bios ->idle->load vcore formula across almost all voltages, unlike LLC1, so it IS possible for GB to improve the old LLC1....multi step version is trash....you guys with contact with GB should ask them to fix the old LLC1 and keep old LLC2....

Only problem with old LLC2 is avoiding idle 0x124 BSOD, so you'll need a little more vcore than what you would normally need for full load.

yes i agree and its what we have been trying but new bioses keep on like that, and yes i only use LLC2 for bench above 5200 not 24/7 for the bsods on idle

[OC Nub]

thats a great score i think i will have to give a try on my 570's

Thank you!

IDK why Gigabyte went with 10 LLC's, maybe to try and match Asus? If I had wanted an Asus board I would have bought one. I think they should stick with what has worked for them, fix the issues that have been going on from the beginning, and do a lot more testing before making anymore major changes. Things normally get better with updates, not worse. This is assbackwards.

[the_real_7]

go F3H BIOS and u will be fine

you know this is my bios freind thanks for convincing and tweaking my ud7 again . . . asus will be cancelled , don't tell giga this, as this is no time to put they're heads up , they won a battle but not the war

[the_real_7]

You guys should ask Gigabyte to improve the OLD LLC1 and put back the OLD LLC2. It's FAR More reliable than the multi step LLC. Multi step is erratic and has weird spikes once you go past level 6. Level 5 is WORSE than the old LLC1 at higher vcores, but at lower vcores, level 5 has less droop at idle or in BIOS (like around 1.25v). Level 6 is closest to the old LLC1, but this only applies to higher voltages...at 1.25v, LLC6 is better than the old LLC1, at 1.45v its slightly worse (some spikes at idle to HIGHER than BIOS setting, load drops about the same). The old LLC2 is predictable and the best; idle voltage is always about 0.015v higher than what you set in the BIOS, and load is about 0.015v higher than idle...while not perfect like having same voltage idle->load without spikes, at least the old LLC2 is predictable and you know what you're getting. The new LLC7+ is bad...the voltage spikes high at light load, then drops back to what the idle voltage was at full load...

The old LLC2 keeps the bios ->idle->load vcore formula across almost all voltages, unlike LLC1, so it IS possible for GB to improve the old LLC1....multi step version is trash....you guys with contact with GB should ask them to fix the old LLC1 and keep old LLC2....

Only problem with old LLC2 is avoiding idle 0x124 BSOD, so you'll need a little more vcore than what you would normally need for full load.

dude you should get the number 1 sticky for this site if it had one . . . you said everything i couldn't say in technical terms ,

" MAIN POINT GIGABYTE YOU AIN'T TESTING AND WE ARE" CAUSE IT SEEMS LATELY WHAT WE ARE SAYING ISN'T RELEVANT TO YOU

You guys should ask Gigabyte to improve the OLD LLC1 and put back the OLD LLC2. It's FAR More reliable than the multi step LLC

[the_real_7]

Thank you!

IDK why Gigabyte went with 10 LLC's, maybe to try and match Asus? If I had wanted an Asus board I would have bought one. I think they should stick with what has worked for them, fix the issues that have been going on from the beginning, and do a lot more testing before making anymore major changes. Things normally get better with updates, not worse. This is assbackwards.

Agreed OC nub some people have been here from the first week and know this board from heart , but the new bios they put up no novice could ever make work , if we cant even decipher this mess . . .

[andressergio]

you know this is my bios freind thanks for convincing and tweaking my ud7 again . . . asus will be cancelled , don't tell giga this, as this is no time to put they're heads up , they won a battle but not the war

pleased to friend

[OC Nub]

Passed 32m at 108.5 bclk. Despite my whining about the board it does pretty good. Timings arent good but I tried for long time with 9 11 9 and half way through it gave error "no exact rounding".

[Dumo]

Once we can read this board, it will deliver...Just need some patience, reboot C1 two times and another reboot after ram initialized then good to go with bios oc settings...

F4 - 1.54Vcore LLC10

[OC Nub]

Once we can read this board, it will deliver...Just need some patience, reboot C1 two times and another reboot after ram initialized then good to go with bios oc settings...

F4 - 1.54Vcore LLC10

Very nice run Dumo, chip looks strong

Been trying 32m for a few hours, this is the best I could get. Im pretty happy with the score, I havent learned a lot of the tweaks yet. F4 bios is looking better now with some practice.

[OC Nub]

mates those are awesome chips and numbers congrats to both

Thank you Sir.

[Dumo]

Very nice run Dumo, chip looks strong

Thanks, will run vantage cpu next

[the_real_7]

some good stuff here

[hirsch]

go F3H BIOS and u will be fine

Thanks, but where can I find it? At the moment I have F3, can't find F3H in the first post of this thread or at GB-officially website.

[stasio]

Thanks, but where can I find it? At the moment I have F3, can't find F3H in the first post of this thread or at GB-officially website.

http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post270423
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/...a-p67a-ud7.htm

[Dumo]

Vantage cpu test

F4 - 1.54Vcore LLC10 bios = 1.596~1.62Vcore in windows

[cole2109]

Which cooling are you using?

[Sauron_Vie]

Vantage cpu test

F4 - 1.54Vcore LLC10 bios = 1.596~1.62Vcore in windows

don´t wanna sell this beast ??

[hirsch]

http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post270423
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/...a-p67a-ud7.htm

Thanks!