***Official***Z68X/P67A-UD7 Club/Discussion/Info**

[stasio]

hows the official f3 bios compared too the f3 beta bios for the B3 ud7?

Will check later.

[Z3LL]

just flashed the board then and the only big difference i noted was the load line calibration.. its not called multi step load line calibration and has quite a few different levels.. will have a muck around and see whats what but bios feels smoother too

[C-N]

just flashed the board then and the only big difference i noted was the load line calibration.. its not called multi step load line calibration and has quite a few different levels.. will have a muck around and see whats what but bios feels smoother too

I take it as its an official BIOS internal pll overvoltage is missing/not there?

[Z3LL]

not sure i normally have it turned off anyways.. but the 10 different levels of load line calibration i like.. found level 6 too be a good medium... deffo loving this f3 official bios atm

[stasio]

just flashed the board then and the only big difference i noted was the load line calibration.. its not called multi step load line calibration and has quite a few different levels.. will have a muck around and see whats what but bios feels smoother too

Yeah,
-Solve press reset button cause system abnormal
-Implemented "Multi-Steps Load-Line" (UD7/UD5-B2/B3-10 levels).

Flash with "Load Optimized Defaults".
DO NOT use old BIOS profile!!

[MusicIsMyLife]

just flashed the board then and the only big difference i noted was the load line calibration.. its not called multi step load line calibration and has quite a few different levels.. will have a muck around and see whats what but bios feels smoother too

I suggested a change on llc to my contact over at Gigabyte two weeks ago. I'm glad that they implemented more levels this fast.

Too bad that there (obviously) are issues with this implementation...


EDIT: stasio, did you get the correct reading in cpu-z with other bios-versions?

When suggesting a change on llc I also noted that cpu-z-readings on vcore on b3-boards aren't correct anymore. I also noted that this should be fixed with the next version of cpu-z - not sure if Gigabyte did something here...

With F3c when I set 1.435 volts llc1 cpu-z reads 1.044 volts....

[Falkentyne]

Anyone know if this multi step LLC was implemented for UD5?

[stasio]

I suggested a change on llc to my contact over at Gigabyte two weeks ago. I'm glad that they implemented more levels this fast.

Too bad that there (obviously) are issues with this implementation...


EDIT: stasio, did you get the correct reading in cpu-z with other bios-versions?

When suggesting a change on llc I also noted that cpu-z-readings on vcore on b3-boards aren't correct anymore. I also noted that this should be fixed with the next version of cpu-z - not sure if Gigabyte did something here...

With F3c when I set 1.435 volts llc1 cpu-z reads 1.044 volts....

Yeah,I got proper reading with CPU-Z,because I am still on B2 board.
For B3 boards use Hwinfo,ET6 or Aida64.
Notice difference in Optimized defaults:

F3h-F3

Vdimm.... 1.5000V-1.5240V

[stasio]

Anyone know if this multi step LLC was implemented for UD5?

UD7 has LLC -10 levels!!
UD5 same as UD7 (B2 and B3 version).

Edit:

Vcore set in BIOS 1.4800.
Idle Vcore (in BIOS):
LLc1.....1.4520
LLc2.....1.4640 (1.4760 in W7-1.4280 Load)
LLc3.....1.4880 (1.4880 in W7-1.4520 Load)
LLc4.....1.5000
LLc5.....1.5120
LLc6.....1.5360
LLc7.....1.5600
LLc8.....1.5840
LLc8.....1.5960
LLc10....1.6200

[the_real_7]

Hey Guys finally got my new GSKILL F3-17000CL7D-4GBXHD 6 hour Prime 26.5 stable , vcore held solid at 1.432 , I still have cmd2 set for now as i still need to lower my vtt from1.151 . . . I didn't think i would end up using 2133mhz for my 24 / 7 but board isn't stressing as much as i thought it would

Prime Pass 4.8 2133mhz 7.9.7.21 cmd 2

[the_real_7]

UD7 has LLC -10 levels!!
UD5 probably same as UD7.

Edit:

Vcore set in BIOS 1.4800.
Idle Vcore (in BIOS):
LLc1.....1.4520
LLc2.....1.4640 (1.4760 in W7-1.4280 Load)
LLc3.....1.4880
LLc4.....1.5000
LLc5.....1.5120
LLc6.....1.5360
LLc7.....1.5600
LLc8.....1.5840
LLc8.....1.5960
LLc10....1.6200

Im excited now we can get some better control , maybe i can lose this heavy droop , so does the llc 10 point system change to your vcore setting in bios Stasio

[stasio]

Im excited now we can get some better control , maybe i can lose this heavy droop , so does the llc 10 point system change to your vcore setting in bios Stasio

As posted above,set in BIOS always 1.4800V and test from LLC1 to LLC10 level value show in BIOS
Test only LLC2 and LLC3 atm in windows.
Congrats on G.Skill,
where is 7-9-7?
Go with CR1,Vtt..1.10-1.12 ;CSA 0.955.

[Falkentyne]

UD7 has LLC -10 levels!!
UD5 probably same as UD7.

Edit:

Vcore set in BIOS 1.4800.
Idle Vcore (in BIOS):
LLc1.....1.4520
LLc2.....1.4640 (1.4760 in W7-1.4280 Load)
LLc3.....1.4880
LLc4.....1.5000
LLc5.....1.5120
LLc6.....1.5360
LLc7.....1.5600
LLc8.....1.5840
LLc8.....1.5960
LLc10....1.6200

Interesting. Only someone trying to blow up their chips would use LLC10.
Seems like UD5 has slightly lower voltage in BIOS than your UD7.

On UD5, I just had 1 test
100.03x50:

1.445v set in BIOS:
LLC5: 1.440v idle vcore in BIOS (yours was 0.03v higher, stasio).
WinXP: idle 1.440v or 1.428v (I forgot).
Load: 1.404v-1.392v. (Prime blend)

Did about 45 minutes of prime blend without a crash and stopped.
Had to redo all my profiles since I cleared cmos:

4.5 ghz LLC5: 1.265v BIOS HT on
4.5 ghz LLC5: 1.250v BIOS HT off
5.0 ghz LLC5: 1.445v BIOS HT on
5.0 ghz LLC5: 1.430v BIOS HT off

Satisfied for now.
The vcore going into the chip at LLC5 seems to be about the same or maybe a tiny notch higher than on the last f3 beta. Temps seemed to be spot on. Then again it was 3 am. Didn't BSOD at the 5 ghz test. I did BSOD on the last beta with 1.445v LLC1, so I had to set it to 1.450v there. But since it is night time, who knows...

4.5 ghz will be my highest 24/7 settings (at 4 ghz for now) and the 5 ghz profiles will be my highest game settings.

Still boots at x49 with PLL override disabled, x50 enabled.

Had one bug where XP froze on shutdown...hasn't done that since I had a B2 board...

[stasio]

Are your Vdimm a notch higher (1.5240 in default),then in latest beta?

[Falkentyne]

My vdimm went from 1.500 to 1.536v.

[Andrea deluxe]

Are your Vdimm a notch higher (1.5240 in default),then in latest beta?

stasio sorry to post here for my ud4-b3...

but i try the f3 bios tomorrow... but im curious about the intagration of llc multilevel is only for ud5/ud7 ???
not ud4???

[stasio]

stasio sorry to post here for my ud4-b3...

but i try the f3 bios tomorrow... but im curious about the intagration of llc multilevel is only for ud5/ud7 ???
not ud4???

I think in UD4 LLC :"Auto-Disabled-Enabled".
Only UD7 and UD5 has "Multi-Steps Load Line"

UD4


UD5/UD7 (B2 & B3)

[PatRaceTin]

^
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those tool is interesting

[stasio]

^
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those tool is interesting

No secret,posted long time ago on TT forum.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ity-tools.html

Btw,
http://www.mediafire.com/?gdfii8xfxpode75

[Andrea deluxe]

I think in UD4 LLC :"Auto-Disabled-Enabled".
Only UD7 and UD5 has "Multi-Steps Load Line"

UD4


UD5/UD7 (B2 & B3)

wow stasio nice...

ok..

[stasio]

wow stasio nice...

ok..

But,I am sure they improve LLC.
Test and see.

[sin0822]

here were my findings for the new levels of LLC, except when I tried it out for them I had the normal 3 levels as well. Level6 is the BEST hands down. It does overvolt though.

I will check to see if this is the SAME LLC i am guessing it is 100% of the way.

[stasio]

Thanks Sin,I am on level 4 now and uping.....
So far best BIOS for me.
Some people over hardwareluxx.de forum talking nonsence!

[Falkentyne]

Sin, ok you really did it this time.
I don't understand the chart
You have standard, level 1 and level 2, with ten levels in each one...how?

Your BIOS has standard, level 1 and level 2, and with 10 levels in each one?
I think you need to clear CMOS with power unplugged, then?

Mine only has "Disable", and "llc1-llc10".
llc4 seems to be the same as the old "level 1", so I used LLC5.

[owikh84]

Tested F3 on my voltage loving 2600K at 5.0GHz
LLC10, Bios: 1.55, idle 1.65v, load 1.57v BSOD 124
Lower Levels are worse, cant boot into win.
Which level is equal to F3H Level2?