Intel Sandy Bridge chip leaked in Acer, Gateway, Lenovo notebooks

[zalbard]

Source: http://www.electronista.com/

Discoveries today have uncovered one of the first processors using Intel's Sandy Bridge architecture in a handful of notebooks along with as yet unannounced AMD mobile graphics. The Acer Aspire 5750, an unknown Gateway model and a Lenovo IdeaPad Y560P all show the Core i7-2630QM, a quad-core 2GHz processor. Most details aren't known of the chips themselves, but most should be accompanied by the HM65 chipset part of Intel's future Huron River platform.

Sandy Bridge will still be based on the existing 32 nanometer manufacturing process, but the new architecture will include Advanced Vector Extensions to improve performance in certain media and math tasks and better handling of out-of-order execution. The integrated graphics may be the biggest leap as a brand new core will exist directly on the processor and give dedicated-level video performance that may include OpenCL general-purpose computing acceleration.

Some of the notebooks also have the Mobility Radeon HD 6550 or 6570. Their details remain a mystery but are likely to see them as direct replacements for the 5500 series. The desktop Radeon HD 6000 series primarily improves the performance per watt as well as adding antialiasing and hardware tessellation.

Intel has already confirmed that Sandy Bridge will get its debut at a CES keynote, making it very likely that all of the notebooks and AMD's graphics will launch at the same time.

Soon...

[Johnny87au]

oooo, integrated graphics here we come !!! This sounds extremely nice!... Wonder what gaming laptop asus have to offer also?!

[RejZoR]

Fusion will be better imo, because of the GPU superiority when it comes to AMD.

[Hornet331]

Fusion will be better imo, because of the GPU superiority when it comes to AMD.

In this price class you get discreet mobile gpus, so i can get best cpu performance with good gpu performance.

The articel eben mentions that there will be notebooks with discreet HD6xxx mobility gpus.

[Sam_oslo]

So they couldn't wait? Not strange, SB's IGP is actually designed for laptops. That's where it makes most sense.

I've already predicted that SB will revolutionize laptops. It will be interesting to see these IGP + Quad-core babies in action.

[Hornet331]

So they couldn't wait? Not strange, SB's IGP is actually designed for laptops. That's where it makes most sense.

I've already predicted that SB will revolutionize laptops. It will be interesting to see these IGP + Quad-core babies in action.

Revolutionize... na but a good leap forward. The IGP is not bad, we already know numbers from the HD2000 and they are quite faster then Clarksfield and the mobile parts get the HD3000, so i guess we will see a good jump in that regard, but still wont touch dedicated mobile gpus.

[Sam_oslo]

Revolutionize... na but a good leap forward. The IGP is not bad, we already know numbers from the HD2000 and they are quite faster then Clarksfield and the mobile parts get the HD3000, so i guess we will see a good jump in that regard, but still wont touch dedicated mobile gpus.

There is a fine line there, revolutionize... or a good leap forward, whatever we call it. These IGP will improve the biggest weakness of current laptops, and eliminate the need for a dedicated GPU for business/desktop use, which is the primary usage-area for laptops per today.

Except those confused people who wants to game on a laptop, who would need a dedicated GPU in laptops after these IGP? I would call it a revolution, but won't argue with those who mean it's a good leap forward.

[informal]

In this price class you get discreet mobile gpus, so i can get best cpu performance with good gpu performance.

The articel eben mentions that there will be notebooks with discreet HD6xxx mobility gpus.

Llano will have a discrete level of GPU perf. integrated on die(~5750 class),with more than good cpu performance . Those are family 10h+ cores with aggressive new power gated Turbo.For a notebook user,a difference between SB CPU cores and Llano cores will be barely noticeable in real life usage in many if not most workloads.But,the difference in their fps when they play a game will be more than noticeable.On top of that,Llano will be able to do Hybrid CF with discrete GPUs too,so a major plus.

[Manicdan]

There is a fine line there, revolutionize... or a good leap forward, whatever we call it. These IGP will improve the biggest weakness of current laptops, and eliminate the need for a dedicated GPU for business/desktop use, which is the primary usage-area for laptops per today.

Except those confused people who wants to game on a laptop, who would need a dedicated GPU in laptops after these IGP? I would call it a revolution, but won't argue with those who mean it's a good leap forward.

we already had the revolutionize vs evolution argument.
SB has a weak IGP and its only going to change maybe 1W compared to a separate IGP. as the chips become bigger (and both about similar size) then the effect of merging them becomes more apparent.

how is SB going to change anything for business laptops? if your saying they couldnt do anything before on intels old igp, then it sounds like they "fixed" something, instead of revolutionizing it.

[Hornet331]

Llano will have a discrete level of GPU perf. integrated on die(~5750 class),with more than good cpu performance . Those are family 10h+ cores with aggressive new power gated Turbo.For a notebook user,a difference between SB CPU cores and Llano cores will be barely noticeable in real life usage in many if not most workloads.But,the difference in their fps when they play a game will be more than noticeable.On top of that,Llano will be able to do Hybrid CF with discrete GPUs too,so a major plus.

Even with the shader specs simmilar to a HD5750 it will be massivly memory bandwidth limited, we already saw this for the barazos platform review (a HD5450 spec wise with only 8GB/s and bandwidth shared with CPU only gives ~70% of the performance of a discreet card.)
And thats only with a bandwidth deficit of 40% (12,8GB/s compared to 8GB/s)

A HD5750 has 73,6GB/s memory bandwidth that it hasn't to share with anything. Even for desktops with ddr3-1600 you only get 25,6GB/s (thats 2,8 times less) so more in the ballpark of a HD55xx.

But we are talking mobile here so i doubt we see fullspeed ddr3-1600 but more like DDR3-1333 or even DRR3-1066.

(Mobile) IGPs still suck, and even first generation fusion wont change this. If you want to play games, buy a graphic card. Gaming on notebooks is a chapter on its own.

[informal]

In any case,the perf. difference will be huge between the two,no matter how you look at it(with or without enough BW). For most users that buy a laptop and still want to game occasionally without buying an expensive laptop with discrete GPU,Llano will be a better choice.And if they decide to buy a discrete card,they can choose one compatible with Llano's GPU for CFX.

[Movieman]

I'm going to step in here and say that the AMD guys get ripsheet when the Intel guys come into the AMD cpu threads so lets try and keep this OT on the Intel chip ok?
Thanks for listening

[Hornet331]

In any case,the perf. difference will be huge between the two,no matter how you look at it(with or without enough BW). For most users that buy a laptop and still want to game occasionally without buying an expensive laptop with discrete GPU,Llano will be a better choice.And if they decide to buy a discrete card,they can choose one compatible with Llano's GPU for CFX.

Why are we talking desktop all the sudden?

edit: When we stay desktop, you might want to look at this:
http://ht4u.net/reviews/2010/amd_ati...d5550_roundup/

It compares A HD5500 with GDDR3@800mhz and DDR2@400mhz (25,6gb/s vs 12,8gb/s) and a oced HD5500 with HD5570 specs.
As you can see this chips hunger for memory bandwidth, a chip with 320 SPs with same clocks is often faster then the same chip with 400 SPs just because the 320SPs chip has the better memory bandwidth.

I have no intention to make the integration of GPUs into the CPU look bad, but i am a gamer and a realist. People make it sound like this new approach will open them a new world of gaming experience, when in fact its just marketing bull. We are exactly there where we left off, IGP can and will run older games decent on low res and low details but if you up the details or the res your again in the sub 30 or een sub 20fps range, and there it doesn't matter if one IGP runs 9,6fps or 18,9fps, both are unplayable...

[kl0012]

In any case,the perf. difference will be huge between the two,no matter how you look at it(with or without enough BW). For most users that buy a laptop and still want to game occasionally without buying an expensive laptop with discrete GPU,Llano will be a better choice.And if they decide to buy a discrete card,they can choose one compatible with Llano's GPU for CFX.

Well... Lets see how many shaders will be in mobile llano parts. Last roadmap I saw hints for 100W TDP for 4-core parts and 65W TDP for dual core parts (with, probably, weaker IGP). Any way, "to game occasionally" you can on any notebook. Depends on what game you play. Personally i enjoy playing "Plants vs. Zombie", bejeweled and "Crayon Physics" even on my atom netbook.

[flippin_waffles]

[edit]
whoops nevermind, mods to the rescue....

[Movieman]

why are we talking desktop all the sudden?

well... Lets see how many shaders will be in mobile llano parts. Last roadmap i saw hints for 100w tdp for 4-core parts and 65w tdp for dual core parts (with, probably, weaker igp). Any way, "to game occasionally" you can on any notebook. Depends on what game you play. Personally i enjoy playing "plants vs. Zombie", bejeweled and "crayon physics" even on my atom netbook.

please..

[duploxxx]

more details also on the HP DV7 series

http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/...-release-date/

Looks like Intel’s Core i7-2630QM chip will be making its way to laptops now courtsey of HP’s dv7. Here’s a look into XE378EA – HP Pavilion dv7-5000ea Entertainment Notebook PC.

hp pavilion HP Pavilion dv7 5000ea w/ Intel i7 2630QM : Specs, Price and Release Date Soon

First, here are the specs of this Entertainment Notebook with the new Core i7-2630QM CPU:

* 17.3″ HD+ LED HP BrightView Display
* Intel HM55 chipset
* 2.0 GHz Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor
* 4 GB DDR3 up to 8 GB DDR3 memory
* 640 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 5400 rpm
* ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 6570 Graphics, up to 2806 MB total graphics memory with 1 GB DDR5 dedicated
* HP Clickpad supporting Multi-Touch gestures with On/Off button
* Blu-ray DVD combo drive
* 5-in-1 Card Reader for SDcards, MMC, MS, MS Pro or xD Picture cards.
* Integrated VGA Web cam and mic
* 802.11 b/g/n WiFi
* Bluetooth
* Gigabit Ethernet LAN
* Integrated finger print reader
* 6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery
* Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

although laptop specs are debatable off course, on the intel SB details:

what is the official CPU ghz spec according to some sites its 2.0ghz and others it is 2.2? and what's up with this HM55 chipset sounds strange?
top I7 mobile will have integrated graphics or not?????

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Intel-C...r.41482.0.html

[Hornet331]

Im sure its the HM65, because its part of the Huron-River platform we see here, and that looks like a decent DTR.

[dartaz]

Llano will have a discrete level of GPU perf. integrated on die(~5750 class),with more than good cpu performance .

I thought that LIano GPU is going to have 400sp or 480sp, which is more like HD5670

A HD5750 has 73,6GB/s memory bandwidth that it hasn't to share with anything. Even for desktops with ddr3-1600 you only get 25,6GB/s (thats 2,8 times less) so more in the ballpark of a HD55xx.


But we are talking mobile here so i doubt we see fullspeed ddr3-1600 but more like DDR3-1333 or even DRR3-1066.

Let us not forget that 25,6GB/s memory bandwidth is shared between the GPU and CPU

[ripken204]

im waiting for a Lenovo T Series to include one, give me it already!

[clayton]

Can't wait to see the perf/watt from these new dualcores!

[informal]

more details also on the HP DV7 series

http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/...-release-date/

Looks like Intel’s Core i7-2630QM chip will be making its way to laptops now courtsey of HP’s dv7. Here’s a look into XE378EA – HP Pavilion dv7-5000ea Entertainment Notebook PC.

hp pavilion HP Pavilion dv7 5000ea w/ Intel i7 2630QM : Specs, Price and Release Date Soon

First, here are the specs of this Entertainment Notebook with the new Core i7-2630QM CPU:

* 17.3″ HD+ LED HP BrightView Display
* Intel HM55 chipset
* 2.0 GHz Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor
* 4 GB DDR3 up to 8 GB DDR3 memory
* 640 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 5400 rpm
* ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 6570 Graphics, up to 2806 MB total graphics memory with 1 GB DDR5 dedicated
* HP Clickpad supporting Multi-Touch gestures with On/Off button
* Blu-ray DVD combo drive
* 5-in-1 Card Reader for SDcards, MMC, MS, MS Pro or xD Picture cards.
* Integrated VGA Web cam and mic
* 802.11 b/g/n WiFi
* Bluetooth
* Gigabit Ethernet LAN
* Integrated finger print reader
* 6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery
* Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

although laptop specs are debatable off course, on the intel SB details:

what is the official CPU ghz spec according to some sites its 2.0ghz and others it is 2.2? and what's up with this HM55 chipset sounds strange?
top I7 mobile will have integrated graphics or not?????

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Intel-C...r.41482.0.html

That's pretty sweet notebook right there.Is Turbo limit known for that particular SB model?Since the starting clock is rather low,I expect it to use the headroom to "Turbo" pretty aggressively.

@dartaz
You are correct,I've meant 5650 level,made a typo.

[haylui]

mobile computer makers should be emphasis on battery technology to give more mileage

[PatRaceTin]

i would prefer SandyM + GeForce 4xxM or 5xxM

[saaya]

and again... quadcore in a laptop... hah...
if you want bad battery life just replace the default one with a 3cell version
oh but wait, that doesnt create the same noise and scorching heat hmmmm...