AMD rebrands HD 5000 parts

[E30M3]

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/ite...eastern-europe


HD 5550 turns HD 6390 Last month we got word that AMD might rebrand some if its entry level and mainstream HD 5000 series products in select markets.

Although AMD did not comment the reports, it appears that some cards will indeed be rebranded. According to Geeks3D, the HD 5550 has become the HD 6390, courtesy of a new BIOS.

In addition, AMD is expected to rebrand a couple more cards based on Redwood and Cedar cores, but we still don't know the specifics.

You can check out the photos here.http://www.geeks3d.com/forums/index....ic,1769.0.html

[Lanek]

You have not write the interessant part ... for Russian market ... anyway till the HD6390 hit the shop we will see .. ( is there really a HD6390 ? )


Russian PC maker K-Systems will offer three rehashed HD 5000 cards in its systems starting November. The cards are apparently branded HD 6250, HD 6390 and HD 6510. At this point we don’t know which HD 5000 series cards they are based on, but we’re probably looking at Cedar and Redwood cores.

Is really AMD who rebrand cards ? or just K-System ?

[LinusTech]

I'm not sure why everyone treats this like something new....

What do you think X600 was?

Yes, G92 was particularly blatant, but re-branding has always existed and EVERYONE does it.

[Manicdan]

bios 10.10 means this should have been known for a few weeks now, unless the russian cats are later

also i see that it has openGL 4.0 vs 3.2

and why does that gpu id app not give out anywhere near the same info?
somethings bugging me about this

[generics_user]

HD 5550 turns HD 6390 Last month we got word that AMD might rebrand some if its entry level and mainstream HD 5000 series products in select markets.

Although AMD did not comment the reports, it appears that some cards will indeed be rebranded. According to Geeks3D, the HD 5550 has become the HD 6390, courtesy of a new BIOS.

In addition, AMD is expected to rebrand a couple more cards based on Redwood and Cedar cores, but we still don't know the specifics.

You can check out the photos here.http://www.geeks3d.com/forums/index....ic,1769.0.html

lol amd didn't have a card branded that low since the HD 4350

who cares if they rename some ultraentrylevel stuff
5390 indicates that

[Pantsu]

I'm sure there's an In Soviet Russia... joke somewhere here but I'm too tired to find it.

Anyways, what happens in Russia, stays in Russia.

[squilliam]

I honestly feel it is not that big of a deal, as long as the new name comes with a new (lower) price.

Hawking it as a new card entirely is dispicable. Especially if it is the same price.

[don_xvi]

I agree with those pointing out that this isn't a new practice. I can see why people feel like they're cheating, but feel it's a purely emotional reaction and counterproductive. It helps cohesion in the model lineup; I won't be confused if I should get the 6450 or the 5550, for instance. By making the 5550 into a 6350 I know exactly how it relates to the other products on the market at the time I'm looking to buy.

[[XC] gomeler]

*yawn* nothing to see here folks. move along.

[E30M3]

For my sake, they can rebrand
all they want but remember that it applies
two both nVidia and AMD

[Silaz]

Haha, I love how everyone accepts it when AMD does it, however when Nvidia does it there are so many troll posts it is an unreadable thread. Have to love how biased some people can be.

Anyhow, back on topic. I find it to be no problem that AMD rebrands as it is normal. Furthermore, the people who do not understand the architecture differences are the ones who purchase the lower end cards anyhow. The money still goes to AMD and/or Nvidia. Its up to the customer to do their research so I don't feel cheated at all.

[zerazax]

Sounds like someone's grasping for straws in this thread

Give it a break

[JkS]

When nvidia does it, they make it seem like the next best thing since the slice of bread.

When AMD does it, they do it quietly to a product no one cares about and isn't really relavent to us.

[Lanek]

Haha, I love how everyone accepts it when AMD does it, however when Nvidia does it there are so many troll posts it is an unreadable thread. Have to love how biased some people can be.

Anyhow, back on topic. I find it to be no problem that AMD rebrands as it is normal. Furthermore, the people who do not understand the architecture differences are the ones who purchase the lower end cards anyhow. The money still goes to AMD and/or Nvidia. Its up to the customer to do their research so I don't feel cheated at all.

Nobody buy that, this is OEM specific cards, used on specific OEM prebuild laptop or desktop... nothing new, it happend all the time ... Specially in the ultra low end segment.

[Sly Fox]

I don't know why the "who rebrands worse" debate even still exists.

In the recent past, Nvidia have been the worst culprits overall. So a lot of anger gets directed towards them.

Nobody thinks AMD isn't guilty of it too though.

[generics_user]

Haha, I love how everyone accepts it when AMD does it, however when Nvidia does it there are so many troll posts it is an unreadable thread. Have to love how biased some people can be.

Anyhow, back on topic. I find it to be no problem that AMD rebrands as it is normal. Furthermore, the people who do not understand the architecture differences are the ones who purchase the lower end cards anyhow. The money still goes to AMD and/or Nvidia. Its up to the customer to do their research so I don't feel cheated at all.

there is a slight difference between rebranding something and moving it to a lower price point/position and rebranding something to sell the same thing for more $$$ like nvidia did when it moved the 8800gts512 to a 9800gtx brand and then further on to a gts250 while charging more for the 9800gtx than they did with the 8800gts and more for the gts 250 than they did for the 9800gtx...

it would've been entirely different if they didn't jack up the prices for each rebrand step
actually the 9800 to gts250 move was completely accepttable in terms of product positioning but charing more for the same product because it has a different name is something i don*t accept

[JkS]

there is a slight difference between rebranding something and moving it to a lower price point/position and rebranding something to sell the same thing for more $$$ like nvidia did when it moved the 8800gts512 to a 9800gtx brand and then further on to a gts250 while charging more for the 9800gtx than they did with the 8800gts and more for the gts 250 than they did for the 9800gtx...

it would've been entirely different if they didn't jack up the prices for each rebrand step
actually the 9800 to gts250 move was completely accepttable in terms of product positioning but charing more for the same product because it has a different name is something i don*t accept

They Added an NDA on top of it for good measure

[Sn0wm@n]

fudzilla ????? come on ....

[FischOderAal]

Well, at least it's OEM only. It still sucks hard though.

YOU ARE HEREBY APPOINTED TO THE TROLL of the day

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I'm sorry to say, but I knew where this thread was heading as soon as I saw that you opened it. Really, you should chill dude! There's no need to call someone names...

[Particle]

Low end parts have always been refreshed less frequently. You can see this even with the GF4 MX series cards being GeForce2s in reality. X1300 is X300, etc.

People, it's only worth getting butt hurt about when they start doing it in the upper mainstream and higher end lines. Rebranding G92s...that's a bit different.

[generics_user]

yup 5770 rebranded to 6770 would be extremely misleading but this is just another lowest end rebrand and if they do it on a larger scale in the future i'm 100% sure that they're going o make it very obvious like with the 535v in th enotebook market

[Silaz]

there is a slight difference between rebranding something and moving it to a lower price point/position and rebranding something to sell the same thing for more $$$ like nvidia did when it moved the 8800gts512 to a 9800gtx brand and then further on to a gts250 while charging more for the 9800gtx than they did with the 8800gts and more for the gts 250 than they did for the 9800gtx...

it would've been entirely different if they didn't jack up the prices for each rebrand step
actually the 9800 to gts250 move was completely accepttable in terms of product positioning but charing more for the same product because it has a different name is something i don*t accept

Although I recall the shady progression the G92 core made through the 8800->9800->250 series, never once did I recall a price increase. But, my aforementioned point still withstands. It is the job of the consumer to research the product before they buy it. If they are silly enough to think the gtx 250 was faster than the 9800 gtx, so be it. They'll be happy because they'll never know, but those who know technology will be angry for them I guess.

[generics_user]

Although I recall the shady progression the G92 core made through the 8800->9800->250 series, never once did I recall a price increase. But, my aforementioned point still withstands. It is the job of the consumer to research the product before they buy it. If they are silly enough to think the gtx 250 was faster than the 9800 gtx, so be it. They'll be happy because they'll never know, but those who know technology will be angry for them I guess.

it's not that i'm angry with the 250 rebrand, in fact it was completely understandable to move it up to a GT2xx brand and the positioning wasn't misleading at all, why should they do a new chip when the old one has the same features, same perforance/watt and does just as good in the market?!

9800 rebrand was understandable too, but the big problem here was that they had to release G92 as 8800gt first because it still wasn't able to beat 8800gtx at this time, from a product point of view i have no problem with rebranding but i don't like it when prices go up after a rebrand....

[Silaz]

it's not that i'm angry with the 250 rebrand, in fact it was completely understandable to move it up to a GT2xx brand and the positioning wasn't misleading at all, why should they do a new chip when the old one has the same features, same perforance/watt and does just as good in the market?!

9800 rebrand was understandable too, but the big problem here was that they had to release G92 as 8800gt first because it still wasn't able to beat 8800gtx at this time, from a product point of view i have no problem with rebranding but i don't like it when prices go up after a rebrand....

I agree with your point. Guess I never noticed the price increase because as soon as I learned it was a rebrand I didn't shop for it.

[Nintendork]

They Added an NDA on top of it for good measure

And blacklisted some websites that comply of doing an "already done" review (9800GTX+).