AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[SKYMTL]

Actually to quote neliz @ beyond3d


This next week cant get here fast enough

That's the same guy predicting the HD 6950 would beat the GTX 580, right?

[informal]

That's the same guy predicting the HD 6950 would beat the GTX 580, right?

I don't think so. But this guy(neliz) knows a lot .

[SKYMTL]

I don't think so. But this guy(neliz) knows a lot .

I was right.

[Borden]

I'm sure he was talking about 3dmak11 score

[zalbard]

Yeah, he is about as good as Fuad at these rumours...

[informal]

I was right.

Well "to trade blows" is different from "beating 580". First implies being on par,while second being uniformly faster. I would expect Cayman XT to be somewhat faster than 580GTX while Pro to be somewhat faster than 570.

[hurrdurr]

Well "to trade blows" is different from "beating 580". First implies being on par,while second being uniformly faster. I would expect Cayman XT to be somewhat faster than 580GTX while Pro to be somewhat faster than 570.

6950 trading blows with 580 means 6970 annihilating 580.

[informal]

6950 trading blows with 580 means 6970 annihilating 580.

I doubt 6970 will be annihilating 6950. Do you consider ~15% faster than 6950 an annihilation?

[hurrdurr]

I doubt 6970 will be annihilating 6950. Do you consider ~15% faster than 6950 an annihilation?

$50 cheaper and 15% faster? It is utter destruction.

[informal]

If it(6870) is somewhat faster than 580 don't expect NV will sit still and leave those prices untouched.They will make corrections instantly. Basically,performance will dictate the prices.I expect that you will get similar perf./$ from both camps. What is unknown is power draw comparison and driver support.

[SimBy]

That's the same guy predicting the HD 6950 would beat the GTX 580, right?

Trading blows is not beating as was pointed out. And he is definitely a guy 'in the know'.

[Vardant]

Sure, but he's also right there behind Charlie, when it comes to hating NVIDIA.

[[XC] hipno650]

Trading blows is not beating as was pointed out. And he is definitely a guy 'in the know'.

so is SKYMTL... best case scenario we get the same performance from 6970 as 580 and 6950 as 570 then both but with AMD's being priced cheaper. then both AMD AND Nvidia lower prices and you get sweet cards no matter what color your vision is for cheap

[SimBy]

Sure, but he's also right there behind Charlie, when it comes to hating NVIDIA.

Oh cmon now, no one hates nV as much as Charlie. Not even close

[johnieboy]

Hardware.fr have both 6900 cards and are confirming december 15 to be the launch date in their GTX 570 Review.

A l’heure où nous publions ce dossier, les Radeon HD 6900 sont enfin entre nos mains et avec un lancement prévu le 15 décembre il paraît cette fois sage de patienter une semaine de plus pour disposer de toutes les informations avant d’acheter.

[Heinz68]

Sure, but he's also right there behind Charlie, when it comes to hating NVIDIA.

Why do you say nelis hates Nvidia like Charlie? Any prove of that?

I don't think even Charlie hates Nvidia, he just doesn't like some of the Nvidia shill, most likely he is not the only.

[SKYMTL]

I don't think even Charlie hates Nvidia, he just doesn't like some of the Nvidia shill, most likely he is not the only.

Charlie has a grudge against NVIDIA that goes back to the Derek Perez days. It's a long story with plenty of twists and turns but the long and short of it is that Charlie's feelings have lingered long after Derek left.

[Heinz68]

Charlie has a grudge against NVIDIA that goes back to the Derek Perez days. It's a long story with plenty of twists and turns but the long and short of it is that Charlie's feelings have lingered long after Derek left.

Well since Charlie wont respond to this post, lets read what he posted here

[Olivon]

Well since Charlie wont respond to this post, lets read what he posted here

Charlie is totally biaised. You like that ?

[Heinz68]

Charlie is totally biaised. You like that ?

Most people are biased, even journalist or reviewers are biased. You're not? Some people are just more open about it.

If for example some people can tolerate Fudzilla they should not have any problem to tolerate Charlie plus most times he at least knows what he is talking about or has better sources.

Whether I like Charlie or not it's not the point.

EDIT
Anyway all this was about neliz until Vardant compared him to Charlie. I believe there is nothing to compare.

[Olivon]

Most people are biased, even journalist or reviewers are biased. You're not? Some people are just more open about it.

If for example some people can tolerate Fudzilla they should not have any problem to tolerate Charlie plus most times he at least knows what he is talking about or has better sources.

Whether I like Charlie or not it's not the point.

I don't think so.

My opinion is more that fanboyism brings negative attitudes in HW debates.
Charlie is a really AMD's passionnaria and plays with that in a pathetic way and when I wanna find real informations I 'ill grab'em in non-biaised areas, plenty of sites make excellent work and I can diggin' my passion in a fair way.

Ideas can change Heinz

[Heinz68]

I don't think so.

My opinion is more that fanboyism brings negative attitudes in HW debates.
Charlie is a really AMD's passionnaria and plays with that in a pathetic way and when I wanna find real informations I 'ill grab'em in non-biaised areas, plenty of sites make excellent work and I can diggin' my passion in a fair way.

Ideas can change Heinz

I can only guess what are you talking about, but if you're accusing others of fanboyism, it is at least funny. Same like Charlie sometime is.

[Sn0wm@n]

I don't think so.

My opinion is more that fanboyism brings negative attitudes in HW debates.
Charlie is a really AMD's passionnaria and plays with that in a pathetic way and when I wanna find real informations I 'ill grab'em in non-biaised areas, plenty of sites make excellent work and I can diggin' my passion in a fair way.

Ideas can change Heinz

and your just an honnest 100% unbiased by-stander???

[zerazax]

I don't think anyone can truly be 100% unbiased unless they're a robot. The question is how much someone is

[mutantmagnet]

I don't think so.

My opinion is more that fanboyism brings negative attitudes in HW debates.
Charlie is a really AMD's passionnaria and plays with that in a pathetic way and when I wanna find real informations I 'ill grab'em in non-biaised areas, plenty of sites make excellent work and I can diggin' my passion in a fair way.

Ideas can change Heinz

How about you bring proof that Charlie's motivations are fueled by AMD fanboyism instead of past interactions where Nvidia lied to him and AMD hasn't fallen into that flagrant moral trap? BTW this is rhetorical question let's just go back to fantasizing about 6900 offering better value than what Nvidia has currently put out.