Thanks kaktus for sharing
Thanks kaktus for sharing
@the amd slides benchmark slides.
obviously they did not want to show themselves loosing in any benchmark. FC2 was in one but not the other, probably because its still slower in that game. then again, there were not very many games where nvidia has such an optimization as that game. if you dont see it on the chart, its probably too old, or it didnt win.
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well all in all good.
but 6970 aka cayman needs to be much better as I expect it to go almost toe to toe on 5970
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I'd say 6950 will be maybe 10% faster than 5870 and 6970 maybe 30-40% faster.
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so much less transistors ... i hope rumors are true ... super low die size .. super low pricing maybe???
25% less silicon and same performance = huge proffit margin making gpu ... nvidia doesnt have anything to counter that .... they need a shrink asap
exactly ... i expect big things from antiles and cayman
Leaked results from someone on my forums with HD6870 for 3D06 and Vantage it looking very interesting and i think it real not fake for sure, let to see what about 6870 performance
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is the 128bit a bug with gpuz database, or is it reading it wrong, or is that the actual bitrate?
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why afterburner shows max clock speed 775mhz in that graph? is it 6850 or 6870 ?
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But then again, bart xt is more or less 25% faster clocked than a 5850, which makes up for most of the difference. I doubt the 6970 will have significantly faster clocks because of its size(900mhz max) vs cypress(850). Basically everything has to come from core improvements and added components.
Clocks appear to match polygon counts on both cards(5850 and 6870).
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If anyone wants to compare to stock HD5870 here is my run at the same CPU clocks (bar 2 extra cores which only influence CPU score):
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=2622805
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GPU-Z's 128-bit reading is cause GPU-Z is a database. I'm sure once its updated, it will read it right
You're right that clocks make up a big part of it, but it depends on what other things they put into Cayman. If, as rumored, Cayman has more architectural changes, then we may see even more improvement. Cypress after all was pretty inefficient compared to Juniper (we see that Juniper x 2 often beat Cypress handily, despite having effectively the same numbers)
They did. That Fermi was 6 months late and a dissapointment was hardly ATI's fault (TSMC's early 40nm woes didn't help supply either). Simple supply vs. demand at work.
Plus, ATI had no target price point since nothing was there to compete. Since ATI has a target card it wants to attack (the GTX 460), they have a target price point now
agreed, the clockspeed difference makes up alot of the perf difference.But then again, bart xt is more or less 25% faster clocked than a 5850, which makes up for most of the difference. I doubt the 6970 will have significantly faster clocks because of its size(900mhz max). Basically everything has to come from core improvements and added components.
as a whole package its pretty good, but what about when both are overclocked (max typical on stock cooling), that could really close in the gap between them.
i think whats best is the potential this has for mobile chips and fusion products.
when mm2 matter on fusion, this can let them pack in more with good yields.
and for mobile stuff they seem to have a better perf per watt
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What concerns me, the 6850 heatsink has 0 heatpipes, while the 6870 heatsink has 3?
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doesn't deserve the name 6870.. more like 5890.
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