shuld i watercool my rig or not

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 02:02 PM

i am thinking of watercooling
but i dont know what sise rad i will need for 2x gtx470 (no overclocking) and a
i7 920 @3.8ghz
i know peapole say go for 2 loops but i priced it up for a single loop and its going to cost £420

ps i have the haf-x case from coolermaster and i can fit a 120.3 rad at the top and a 120.1 at the back
so i can technicly fit a quad rad im my case will that be enugh
(thats the price for the setup is 120.1 rad 120.3 rad 2xblocks for the gpu's
cpu block and waterpump+sump and all the fittings and piping all of it from scan computers)
its alot of money but is it really worth it so shal i go for it or not

i have a corsair h50 and my cpu runs about low 70's using linx after 20 passes
using occt with the gpu's thay hit mid 90's at 100% fan
the gpus only hit mid 80s under normal gaming
and i am just wanting to know if its worth watercooling it
thanks

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 02:28 PM

Yes it worth it. Ill never go back to AIR on my CPU and GPU. Silence and cooling of Watercooling is just too good to go back.

2 Loop would be better. But you can do it in 1 loop with good Rad and Fans.

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boulard83

Yes it worth it. Ill never go back to AIR on my CPU and GPU. Silence and cooling of Watercooling is just too good to go back.

2 Loop would be better. But you can do it in 1 loop with good Rad and Fans.

2 questions then

1 can i cool the rig as i sead with a 120.4 in total and have good temps in summer

2 if i was to do a duel loop how will i do it with the haf case bearing in muind i dont like having rads on the outside of the case
thanks for your input thogh

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 02:40 PM

Yes. with good fans youll be able to run this in summer. Im was cooling 2 OCed GTX460, 1 OCed GTS450 and an I7 @ 4ghz with a single TFC360 with very good room/water delta. Just needed to run fans a lil higher when its hot to keep the water at a good temp.

I finally added an MCR320 for 2 seperate loop. but i now have ~1000$ water cooling parts.

**terramir** · 10-09-2010, 02:47 PM

dude 90's are you talking C? if you are definetly go cool with some sweet water, I recommend you look around for some better deals when it comes to the parts though, there are some sweet deals on forum trades thast may help ya. As for that cpu how much voltage are you pumping in there to get 70's. wow talk about producing heat. I would definetly go water, and well what you could do if you dun wannt go two loops is use the small 120 inbetween the cpu and gpu coolers, to lose some of the heat you just picked up from the cpu, and then after it went through the 2 gpu's put it through the 120.3 to dump the heat from the gpu's before it goes back to the cpu. You might want to read up on fan shrouds before you assemble because the more distance you have between the fans and the rads (mind you distance with guided airflow) the better rads work.
anyways good luck, and dun forget when you assemble the stuff run it 4 at least 24 hours before you install to check for leaks

(dun wanna drown your computer

good luck
terramir

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Boulard83

Yes. with good fans youll be able to run this in summer. Im was cooling 2 OCed GTX460, 1 OCed GTS450 and an I7 @ 4ghz with a single TFC360 with very good room/water delta. Just needed to run fans a lil higher when its hot to keep the water at a good temp.

I finally added an MCR320 for 2 seperate loop. but i now have ~1000$ water cooling parts.

cool i priced up a single loop and its going to cost me about £420 in dallers its about $840 everything is overpriced in the uk
anyway 1 120mm rad and a 360mm rad will be enugh to cool everything then ps here is the rad im wanting not sure if thair ok thogh

120mm rad
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/XSPC-...e-RS-series%29

360mm rad
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/XSPC-...mance-Radiator

im using enermax apolish fans at the mo so i think thay will be ok to use on the rads

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/120mm...hermal-Control

if you want to know the rest of what im looking at let me know ok
thanks again for this
i watercooled a rig before but the cpu block cracked and took out a bfg 680sli mobo and a gtx 8800
and need to say im a little jubious lol

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 02:56 PM

These rad are excellent.

Just do a good leak test not to break your new hardware

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 02:56 PM

if you interested here is some pics before the rig went down

**Conumdrum** · 10-09-2010, 03:05 PM

More 470 SLI and a 965 ES processor pics.
You want fast and quiet? It's not cheap. It's not about the money, it's a hobby. Buncha links, have fun.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=604016
http://www.overclockers.com/annual-w...build-journal/
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=643159

And the main liink if your new to WC, you got lots to learn, start slow for YOUR benefit dude.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=643159

**Conumdrum** · 10-09-2010, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by rubber5

2 questions then

1 can i cool the rig as i sead with a 120.4 in total and have good temps in summer

Wayy no, you have no idea about temps and what a rad can do. Your so short in rad space for your setup. Gosh you have no idea. 102.6 total rad shuld work with high ambients and overclocks.......... If you want quiet........

2 if i was to do a duel loop how will i do it with the haf case bearing in muind i dont like having rads on the outside of the case
thanks for your input thogh

hehe, you want xx, but the laws of physics say something diff. You CANNOT beat physics.

See above input

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Conumdrum

More 470 SLI and a 965 ES processor pics.
You want fast and quiet? It's not cheap. It's not about the money, it's a hobby. Buncha links, have fun.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=604016
http://www.overclockers.com/annual-w...build-journal/
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=643159

And the main liink if your new to WC, you got lots to learn, start slow for YOUR benefit dude.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=643159

thanks bud i have book maked them and i will read thue them
thanks again

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Conumdrum

hehe, you want xx, but the laws of physics say something diff. You CANNOT beat physics.

See above input

i have notest you have the same motherbord as me the gigabite ud5
im looking at the same pump the thing is im cooling my i7 920@3.8 with a corsair h50 and getting laod temps of 70c with linx 20 passes
i can just watercool the 2x470 but i will only have space for a 360mm rad
do you think it will be better to do that instead

nice rig by the way love it

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 03:22 PM

Yes, you can keep your H50 for the CPU and WC only your GPU with the 320 rad. If your satisfied with the H50 for the momment.

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Boulard83

Yes, you can keep your H50 for the CPU and WC only your GPU with the 320 rad. If your satisfied with the H50 for the momment.

the thing is if a 360mm rad is enugh for the gpu's im reall just replaceing the rad on the cpu for a better quality rad same sise but thicker so i thught i will be enugh im i rong on this
i was thinking on cooling the cpu first then the gpu's
will this work better or is it better to get a second loop for the cpu later on
thanks for your help
it meens alot

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 03:49 PM

Keep your H50 on the CPU. Its not that bad

You can Push/Pull on the radiator to gain 1-2 °c.

Get a 360 for the GPU, 2 gpu block, good pump and reservoir. Going to be cheaper for now.

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Boulard83

Keep your H50 on the CPU. Its not that bad

You can Push/Pull on the radiator to gain 1-2 °c.

Get a 360 for the GPU, 2 gpu block, good pump and reservoir. Going to be cheaper for now.

ok i will do that is their any recomendation for rads im not sure what is better

i only really know scan computers and thay sell

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/XSPC-...mance-Radiator

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/EK-Co...D-XT-%28360%29

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/EK-Co...e-420-Radiator

thair all about the same price so im not really sure what to get

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 04:07 PM

They are very similar ( the 420 is a 3x140mm radiator ). All good stuff !

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Boulard83

They are very similar ( the 420 is a 3x140mm radiator ). All good stuff !

ok thanks for your hel pal means alot to me i wont be able to do it now but i know what im looking for now thanks to you

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 04:11 PM

Dont forgot to go with a good pump and not a cheap aquarium one !

MCP355/MCP655. I have 4 Mcp 655 and never had any issue with these.

**rubber5** · 10-09-2010, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boulard83

Dont forgot to go with a good pump and not a cheap aquarium one !

MCP355/MCP655. I have 4 Mcp 655 and never had any issue with these.

ok here is the things i was thinking of getting

water pump
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Swift...-by-Molex-4pin

res
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/XSPC-...OT-included%29

gpu blocks
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/EK-FC...eForce-470-GTX

and water
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1L-Fe...ive-01-S-cm%29

the only 2 things i dont know what to do now is
1 how to drain the water for renewal or cleening
2 what sise tubing to go for some peaople say not to go for the biggest as in not easy to bend it without kinking i dont know i was thinking about this stuf
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/25m-T...-3-8-ID-1-2-OD

let me know if you think its all ok

**Boulard83** · 10-09-2010, 05:09 PM

Great, just need some Biocide for water.

( nd 3/8 tubing and fittings )

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