OK..Apparently D.F.I is no More! Who has the More stable Bios Gigabyte or M.S.I?

[Brother Esau]

As the title implies....Which board Maker produces the more stable Bios & Dependable Motherboard Gigabyte, MSI , ASUS?

[Oliverda]

Msi

[charged3800z24]

Gigabyte

[SoulsCollective]

Brand XYZ!

Seriously though, these threads are pretty useless. Any responses will just be a bunch of anecdotes, well within the margin of error for any survey. The question you should be asking is which model board within your price range has the best reputation and feature-set.

[Sn0wm@n]

Brand XYZ!

Seriously though, these threads are pretty useless. Any responses will just be a bunch of anecdotes, well within the margin of error for any survey. The question you should be asking is which model board within your price range has the best reputation and feature-set.

exactly ... +1000 internet for that response

[Brother Esau]

Brand XYZ!

Seriously though, these threads are pretty useless. Any responses will just be a bunch of anecdotes, well within the margin of error for any survey. The question you should be asking is which model board within your price range has the best reputation and feature-set.

Actually good point! But I am asking about general stability in Bios Code also dependability in build quality from board manufacture.

The questions I am asking are in regards for customer builds (non Over clocking)

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[BeepBeep2]

Asus.
Actually, having commented on this I have not used an MSI board since Socket A.

But I'm selling a 790X-UD4P here in a few days that, well I wish had beter bioses. It was sparce on features and some BIOS'es were horrid.
Then I have my 890GPA-UD3H (Rev.1) that doesn't boot over 1790 ram speeds.

Then there's my ASUS 890FX M4A89TD Pro that hasn't failed me yet in any way firmware wise. The BIOS is clean, and the board is stable. I'm able to hit 1910 memory speeds on my 965, compared to my 890GX board.

Both ASUS and Gigabyte had good build quality, and from what I've seen Gigabyte is a tiny tiny bit better than ASUS in that area. I've heard of MSI 790FX-GD70's blowing up under high load, but I haven't actually owned one to test it.

[Lastviking]

Going from Dfi to Asus and after that Gigabyte..i like my gigabyte board most on Am2+/Am3 boards.

[zanzabar]

i have a gd70 790fx and it sucks, the bios is nice but its not stable, the raid bios takes forever and the board wont do anything with ram. im using an asus m4a89td pro now and it loads the raid bios quick (like 2-3s) the bios is limited but it clocks ram, but it has vary few ram and voltage options, the layout sucks (but its asus so what can u expect but the asus layout) and its priced really high (i won mine or else i would not have picked.) it really sucks with no dfi since ive used them for along time and they have the perfect bios layout and they always have more settings than u can use with stable good clocking boards.

if i were to go now on amd i would go gigabyte or asrock

[generics_user]

ASUS is the way to go for custom built PCs, software is easily available, they're very solid at every price range, feature enough connectors and have proper bios support...

gigabyte, asrock and msi also make solid boards but they tend to create more crappy boards than asus...

from 50-100$ i'd stick with asus and upwards it depends on what you want from your board and asus, msi + GB are pretty much equal from what i've heard

my experience with the Asus CIV was great so far and i can recommend it for enthusiast builds as it is able to control every fan connector in both PWM and voltage modes (easy to build very quiet systems) manually, themperature based (cpu) and by optional thermal sensors

[Biker]

Just go and grab the board that most suits your needs but first heed this warning: YMMV

[Oliverda]

ASUS is the way to go for custom built PCs, software is easily available, they're very solid at every price range, feature enough connectors and have proper bios support...

gigabyte, asrock and msi also make solid boards but they tend to create more crappy boards than asus...

from 50-100$ i'd stick with asus and upwards it depends on what you want from your board and asus, msi + GB are pretty much equal from what i've heard

my experience with the Asus CIV was great so far and i can recommend it for enthusiast builds as it is able to control every fan connector in both PWM and voltage modes (easy to build very quiet systems) manually, themperature based (cpu) and by optional thermal sensors

Unfortunately ASUS boards magical 10 phase PWM is a bad joke compared to MSI.

The CPU voltage is fluctuating like hell. I've never seen such a huge fluctutation on MSI's GD70 or any other mobo.

CPU Voltage set in BIOS: 1,390625V
LLC: ON

Prime Blend: jumping between 1,432V and 1,440V

Idle: ~1,410V


CPU Voltage set in BIOS: 1,390625V
LLC: OFF

Prime Blend: jumping between 1,300V and 1,312V (it's almost 0,1V drop compared to original value!!!)

Idle: ~1,370V


Because of this it's very difficult to find the most efficient 24/7 voltage when you're OCing the CPU. To be honest I was expecting more stable voltages for ~$230.

I've made the measurements on the Probe It points but the mobo reported values are almost the same. At least the voltage sensors are working fine.

[Glow9]

MSI has slick features especially for the price but to RMA anything it's expensive.
Gigabyte is pretty solid too lets face it at every AMD hosted OC event they use Gigabyte boards to me that says something.

Asus will likely die on you, ask the guy who's adding up the $15k in dead boards. Not to mention many peoples terrible experiences I know I'm one.

[BeepBeep2]

Unfortunately ASUS boards magical 10 phase PWM is a bad joke compared to MSI.

The CPU voltage is fluctuating like hell. I've never seen such a huge fluctutation on MSI's GD70 or any other mobo.

CPU Voltage set in BIOS: 1,390625V
LLC: ON

Prime Blend: jumping between 1,432V and 1,440V

Idle: ~1,410V


CPU Voltage set in BIOS: 1,390625V
LLC: OFF

Prime Blend: jumping between 1,300V and 1,312V (it's almost 0,1V drop compared to original value!!!)

Idle: ~1,370V


Because of this it's very difficult to find the most efficient 24/7 voltage when you're OCing the CPU. To be honest I was expecting more stable voltages for ~$230.
I've made the measurements on the Probe It points but the mobo reported values are almost the same. At least the voltage sensors are working fine.

CPU-Z (usually, except some weird cases) only reads in steps of .012v. (If it moves from 1.305v to 1.307v it will read 1.300 to 1.312

I've definately seen such fluctuation on my Gigabyte mobo. Not only that, but my foxconn AM2 mobo is much worse.
My M4A89TD Pro definately has 4 fets per phase. (Compared to three on some ASRock boards, Gigabyte boards)

@ Glow9

Those aren't workstation boards are they

[Final8ty]

Been using Asus for builds for years for mates & a few for myself but mainly used DFI for myself.

All the Asus boards had in my opinion allot of Vcore fluctuation except for the M4A79 Deluxe that was nice.

Now im using Gigabyte as my DFI replacement.

[freeloader]

Hey Brother, what's up? Gigabyte boards are fantastic for stock builds. I've had one failure in about 50 builds in the last year.

[BrokenWall]

I would say Gigabyte seems to be the best out of the box for me, and ASUS and Gigabyte are both great for overclocking

[Ket]

Gigabyte. Tend to clock better than MSI boards too.

[Brother Esau]

Hey Brother, what's up? Gigabyte boards are fantastic for stock builds. I've had one failure in about 50 builds in the last year.

Hey Now Bro! Whats shaking? Still got the DFI P35 I sold you?

[MacClipper]

(non Over clocking)

Asus for BIOS quality - much better out of the box than GA plus more frequent updates too.

Gigabyte for better onboard hardware - love their 3x USB power BUT their AMD mobo BIOS are very much neglected though.

Never tried MSI for AMD so far.

[zanzabar]

Asus for BIOS quality - much better out of the box than GA plus more frequent updates too.

Gigabyte for better onboard hardware - love their 3x USB power BUT their AMD mobo BIOS are very much neglected though.

Never tried MSI for AMD so far.

most DIY boards have over reference usb amperage, and my asus board has quick charging as well and that will supposedly charge things like a wall charger and run a desktop HDD from 1 port. and i know that the dfi LT that i had before it and a black ops and gd70 all charged faster than normal usb ports, hell even my cable box charges phones quickly. so i think its more for newer usb ports than a feature.

[MrMojoZ]

For non-overclocking purposes? BIOS is least of my worries in this scenario.

[Brother Esau]

Great hardware means Jack without proper coded bios

[Tomasis]

gigabyte for sure if you dont intend to OC. Hardly bios is bad on gigabyte at stock hardware lives under long time for customers, it is what matters.

[Lastviking]

gigabyte for sure if you dont intend to OC. Hardly bios is bad on gigabyte at stock hardware lives under long time for customers, it is what matters.

It works good for oc also.