As the title implies....Which board Maker produces the more stable Bios & Dependable Motherboard Gigabyte, MSI , ASUS?
As the title implies....Which board Maker produces the more stable Bios & Dependable Motherboard Gigabyte, MSI , ASUS?
SuperMicro X8SAX
Xeon 5620
12GB - Crucial ECC DDR3 1333
Intel 520 180GB Cherryville
Areca 1231ML ~ 2~ 250GB Seagate ES.2 ~ Raid 0 ~ 4~ Hitachi 5K3000 2TB ~ Raid 6 ~
Msi
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Gigabyte
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
Brand XYZ!
Seriously though, these threads are pretty useless. Any responses will just be a bunch of anecdotes, well within the margin of error for any survey. The question you should be asking is which model board within your price range has the best reputation and feature-set.
Rig specs
CPU: i7 5960X Mobo: Asus X99 Deluxe RAM: 4x4GB G.Skill DDR4-2400 CAS-15 VGA: 2x eVGA GTX680 Superclock PSU: Corsair AX1200
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Actually good point! But I am asking about general stability in Bios Code also dependability in build quality from board manufacture.
The questions I am asking are in regards for customer builds (non Over clocking)
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Last edited by Brother Esau; 10-03-2010 at 12:24 PM.
SuperMicro X8SAX
Xeon 5620
12GB - Crucial ECC DDR3 1333
Intel 520 180GB Cherryville
Areca 1231ML ~ 2~ 250GB Seagate ES.2 ~ Raid 0 ~ 4~ Hitachi 5K3000 2TB ~ Raid 6 ~
Asus.
Actually, having commented on this I have not used an MSI board since Socket A.
But I'm selling a 790X-UD4P here in a few days that, well I wish had beter bioses. It was sparce on features and some BIOS'es were horrid.
Then I have my 890GPA-UD3H (Rev.1) that doesn't boot over 1790 ram speeds.
Then there's my ASUS 890FX M4A89TD Pro that hasn't failed me yet in any way firmware wise. The BIOS is clean, and the board is stable. I'm able to hit 1910 memory speeds on my 965, compared to my 890GX board.
Both ASUS and Gigabyte had good build quality, and from what I've seen Gigabyte is a tiny tiny bit better than ASUS in that area. I've heard of MSI 790FX-GD70's blowing up under high load, but I haven't actually owned one to test it.
Last edited by BeepBeep2; 10-03-2010 at 12:30 PM.
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Going from Dfi to Asus and after that Gigabyte..i like my gigabyte board most on Am2+/Am3 boards.
i have a gd70 790fx and it sucks, the bios is nice but its not stable, the raid bios takes forever and the board wont do anything with ram. im using an asus m4a89td pro now and it loads the raid bios quick (like 2-3s) the bios is limited but it clocks ram, but it has vary few ram and voltage options, the layout sucks (but its asus so what can u expect but the asus layout) and its priced really high (i won mine or else i would not have picked.) it really sucks with no dfi since ive used them for along time and they have the perfect bios layout and they always have more settings than u can use with stable good clocking boards.
if i were to go now on amd i would go gigabyte or asrock
5930k, R5E, samsung 8GBx4 d-die, vega 56, wd gold 8TB, wd 4TB red, 2TB raid1 wd blue 5400
samsung 840 evo 500GB, HP EX 1TB NVME , CM690II, swiftech h220, corsair 750hxi
ASUS is the way to go for custom built PCs, software is easily available, they're very solid at every price range, feature enough connectors and have proper bios support...
gigabyte, asrock and msi also make solid boards but they tend to create more crappy boards than asus...
from 50-100$ i'd stick with asus and upwards it depends on what you want from your board and asus, msi + GB are pretty much equal from what i've heard
my experience with the Asus CIV was great so far and i can recommend it for enthusiast builds as it is able to control every fan connector in both PWM and voltage modes (easy to build very quiet systems) manually, themperature based (cpu) and by optional thermal sensors
Core i7 2600k|HD 6950|8GB RipJawsX|2x 128gb Samsung SSD 830 Raid0|Asus Sabertooth P67
Seasonic X-560|Corsair 650D|2x WD Red 3TB Raid1|WD Green 3TB|Asus Xonar Essence STX
Core i3 2100|HD 7770|8GB RipJawsX|128gb Samsung SSD 830|Asrock Z77 Pro4-M
Bequiet! E9 400W|Fractal Design Arc Mini|3x Hitachi 7k1000.C|Asus Xonar DX
Dell Latitude E6410|Core i7 620m|8gb DDR3|WXGA+ Screen|Nvidia Quadro NVS3100
256gb Samsung PB22-J|Intel Wireless 6300|Sierra Aircard MC8781|WD Scorpio Blue 1TB
Harman Kardon HK1200|Vienna Acoustics Brandnew|AKG K240 Monitor 600ohm|Sony CDP 228ESD
Just go and grab the board that most suits your needs but first heed this warning: YMMV
X5670 B1 @175x24=4.2GHz @1.24v LLC on
Rampage III Extreme Bios 0003
G.skill Eco @1600 (7-7-7-20 1T) @1.4v
EVGA GTX 580 1.5GB
Auzen X-FI Prelude
Seasonic X-650 PSU
Intel X25-E SLC RAID 0
Samsung F3 1TB
Corsair H70 with dual 1600 rpm fan
Corsair 800D
3008WFP A00
Unfortunately ASUS boards magical 10 phase PWM is a bad joke compared to MSI.
The CPU voltage is fluctuating like hell. I've never seen such a huge fluctutation on MSI's GD70 or any other mobo.
CPU Voltage set in BIOS: 1,390625V
LLC: ON
Prime Blend: jumping between 1,432V and 1,440V
Idle: ~1,410V
CPU Voltage set in BIOS: 1,390625V
LLC: OFF
Prime Blend: jumping between 1,300V and 1,312V (it's almost 0,1V drop compared to original value!!!)
Idle: ~1,370V
Because of this it's very difficult to find the most efficient 24/7 voltage when you're OCing the CPU. To be honest I was expecting more stable voltages for ~$230.
I've made the measurements on the Probe It points but the mobo reported values are almost the same. At least the voltage sensors are working fine.
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MSI has slick features especially for the price but to RMA anything it's expensive.
Gigabyte is pretty solid too lets face it at every AMD hosted OC event they use Gigabyte boards to me that says something.
Asus will likely die on you, ask the guy who's adding up the $15k in dead boards. Not to mention many peoples terrible experiences I know I'm one.
i3 2100, MSI H61M-E33. 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws.
MSI GTX 460 Twin Frozr II. 1TB Caviar Blue.
Corsair HX 620, CM 690, Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.
CPU-Z (usually, except some weird cases) only reads in steps of .012v. (If it moves from 1.305v to 1.307v it will read 1.300 to 1.312
I've definately seen such fluctuation on my Gigabyte mobo. Not only that, but my foxconn AM2 mobo is much worse.
My M4A89TD Pro definately has 4 fets per phase. (Compared to three on some ASRock boards, Gigabyte boards)
@ Glow9
Those aren't workstation boards are they
Last edited by BeepBeep2; 10-03-2010 at 01:56 PM.
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Hey Brother, what's up? Gigabyte boards are fantastic for stock builds. I've had one failure in about 50 builds in the last year.
As quoted by LowRun......"So, we are one week past AMD's worst case scenario for BD's availability but they don't feel like communicating about the delay, I suppose AMD must be removed from the reliable sources list for AMD's products launch dates"
I would say Gigabyte seems to be the best out of the box for me, and ASUS and Gigabyte are both great for overclocking
Desktop
AMD Phenom II X2 550 (Quad Unlocked @ 3.4Ghz / 2200Mhz NB)
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (F9 Bios)
8GB (4x2GB) @ DDR2-800
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCUII (920/1840/2200)
Corsair Force GT 120GB
LSI MegaRAID 8408E (3x750 R5)
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Cisco E2000 with DD-WRT kernel 2.6
Gigabyte. Tend to clock better than MSI boards too.
"Prowler"
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Modded X570 Aorus UEFIs
Asus for BIOS quality - much better out of the box than GA plus more frequent updates too.(non Over clocking)
Gigabyte for better onboard hardware - love their 3x USB power BUT their AMD mobo BIOS are very much neglected though.
Never tried MSI for AMD so far.
most DIY boards have over reference usb amperage, and my asus board has quick charging as well and that will supposedly charge things like a wall charger and run a desktop HDD from 1 port. and i know that the dfi LT that i had before it and a black ops and gd70 all charged faster than normal usb ports, hell even my cable box charges phones quickly. so i think its more for newer usb ports than a feature.
5930k, R5E, samsung 8GBx4 d-die, vega 56, wd gold 8TB, wd 4TB red, 2TB raid1 wd blue 5400
samsung 840 evo 500GB, HP EX 1TB NVME , CM690II, swiftech h220, corsair 750hxi
Great hardware means Jack without proper coded bios
SuperMicro X8SAX
Xeon 5620
12GB - Crucial ECC DDR3 1333
Intel 520 180GB Cherryville
Areca 1231ML ~ 2~ 250GB Seagate ES.2 ~ Raid 0 ~ 4~ Hitachi 5K3000 2TB ~ Raid 6 ~
gigabyte for sure if you dont intend to OC. Hardly bios is bad on gigabyte at stock hardware lives under long time for customers, it is what matters.
Vishera 8320@ 5ghz | Gigabyte UD3 | 8gb TridentX 2400 c10| Powercolor 6850 | Thermalight Silver Arrow (bench Super KAZE 3k) | Samsung 830 128gbx2 Raid 0| Fractal case
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