KingPin F1 Gemini rocks in taiwan

[nickshih]

Thx for Vince sending this pot for me

this one is really good for pulling the temp down and up

and i also can easily control the temp under Vanatage CPU test benching with

the chip which has cold bug .

let check some pics of this new monster



















then with the Full pot , without the contact with CHIP , the temp is around -192.2






it is a very good CPU copper Pot for none coldbug CHIP .

Maybe someone dont like this kind of Pot . bcz the temp is going fast .

But for me , it is the best one

[SF3D]

Please show it on the video. Vantage CPU test + heavy load and temp control in that situation.

I saw these during MOA in Taipei and I am very happy

[BenchZowner]

Will you give your awesome W3570 a run with the Gemini ? I feel it has more OC headroom

[Hondacity]

nice enough pics to do 3d modelling..and copy LOL

[dinos22]

it seems more responsive than your pot petri with that particular insert from what ive seen in your video

the second bottom is a very very slow response one but that one nick is showing extremely fast. works very well i did some testing in the last couple of days. This is the first time ive used a pot where i could overhit the CPU temp transition with ease where it requires better control on the pouring side (looks at my hand) . I would have preferred it to not have deep holes like it does through the middle. Other than that it's a gun pot for sure

One thing that i would do with the slower response pot is add a couple of holes in each of the 4 corners....that would make it just right for lazy benching with reasonable response while the faster insert is for ultimate control .

As nick say it is also brilliant for no CB situations. I've been running my testing at -188C during CPU tests and dropping off as i have a CB at -184C with this chip

I have to get that AMD chip of mine out again and give it another crack with this pot. it's got a good 6-8C advantage over F1EE for AMD chips imo

I hear that James is going to be testing one of your pots so it will be interesting how it compares to Harshal pot which is in between the F1EE and Gemini pot in terms of responsiveness/temp control.

[SF3D]

Well, what I saw with my own eyes is something different. But I will not interupt this conversation more. Sorry for that.

[der8auer]

nice enough pics to do 3d modelling..and copy LOL

Other container sellers like otterauge and me also show pictures of our structures. I'm sure that no one will copy such things. If someone does i'm sure that no big overclocker will buy "pirate copies".

[k|ngp|n]

Whatever happened to not showing internal pics online
too many clowns lurking and posting in here. I bet you love this fast pot Nick

When I woke up this morning I had a ton of requests for the pot though, so now I'm thinking I need to change my policy of not showing internals
This base nick is is showing is the rocket base. Rocket base means its fast.
Fast means fast temp transitions up and down. Not slow lol
This pot is the one for non-coldbug chips where getting down and up as quickly as possible is the key.
It also gives really good max loaded temps on chips like clarkdale, am3, p4 and non-coldbug gulfies. With some practice on this one, a bencher can be EXTREMELY fast getting down to benching temps and running benches. The pot can be ready at max temps on a clarkdale or am2 full pot rig before you are even finished setting up the bios usually .

The other base is the one that is used for "temp control" or maintaining temps within a particular range. This base has a slower feel at warmer temps. Its more easily to control and maintain. Its got the old F1 feel. This one is for coldbug chips where more of a buffer is needed to slow down the temperature swing. This is the base you would want to use to navigate the temp transitions between cpu / game tests with a gulftown or any other cpu that has a coldbug. Once torched, this base feels and responds to Ln2 a lot like f1ee.

[Shahryar_NEO]

Very Charming pot and demo.

I want to participate in GOOC WW Final .

I have both gemini and the old F1 pot for the contest but I couldn't get the gemini at the right time as you know and I'll not practice on it ( I'll practice on the old one ) .

what's your suggestion vince ? go with gemini or stay with that old F1 for the event ? ( I think the chips have could bug and the tests are 2D( 32M wprime and superpi ) )

[TinTin]

Thx for Vince sending this pot for me

this one is really good for pulling the temp down and up

and i also can easily control the temp under Vanatage CPU test benching with

the chip which has cold bug .

.................:

Can't see it when I was in Taipei......I like fast!

[..::G80::..]

Bottom weight is like 2Kg?
Looks nice, but nothing special.

[sno.lcn]

Very Charming pot and demo.

I want to participate in GOOC WW Final .

I have both gemini and the old F1 pot for the contest but I couldn't get the gemini at the right time as you know and I'll not practice on it ( I'll practice on the old one ) .

what's your suggestion vince ? go with gemini or stay with that old F1 for the event ? ( I think the chips have could bug and the tests are 2D( 32M wprime and superpi ) )

I just shipped my Gemini to Taiwan for GO OC. Testing the same CPU that has a cold bug with both pots, I prefer the Gemini. It feels a bit like the F1 EE, but is a little easier to manage. It's got faster pull down than the EE, and is just as easy to hold temps :thup:

And the speed base is just ridiculous, it completely blew my mind the first time I tested it. And again every time since.

[nickshih]

Please show it on the video. Vantage CPU test + heavy load and temp control in that situation.

I saw these during MOA in Taipei and I am very happy

petri , u forget to show me ur pot in taiwan , when u are in my lab ... damn i still cant pronounce the "rr" sound with my tongue .

the second bottom is a very very slow response one but that one nick is showing extremely fast. works very well i did some testing in the last couple of days. This is the first time ive used a pot where i could overhit the CPU temp transition with ease where it requires better control on the pouring side (looks at my hand) . I would have preferred it to not have deep holes like it does through the middle. Other than that it's a gun pot for sure

One thing that i would do with the slower response pot is add a couple of holes in each of the 4 corners....that would make it just right for lazy benching with reasonable response while the faster insert is for ultimate control .

As nick say it is also brilliant for no CB situations. I've been running my testing at -188C during CPU tests and dropping off as i have a CB at -184C with this chip

Ya, fast pot will make u awake when u are feeling sleepy during benching ...

too many clowns lurking and posting in here. I bet you love this fast pot Nick

thx for the fast pot.....

and the old F1 can be my slow pot ...

[FlanK3r]

how much expensive is it? This is maybe candidate for me

[chew*]

Please show it on the video. Vantage CPU test + heavy load and temp control in that situation.

I saw these during MOA in Taipei and I am very happy

petri why not show the delta in your video, pot temps mean absolute , and why show what your pot does on an ES A0 chip of all chips.

Seems when I showed a pot on an ES you crucified me. Expect no less.

On topic.

I'm interested to see how this does on AMD

[OgaiB]

I'm interested to see how this does on AMD

With rocket base it will be very similar to VENOM

[SF3D]

petri why not show the delta in your video, pot temps mean absolute, and why show what your pot does on an ES A0 chip of all chips.

Seems when I showed a pot on an ES you crucified me. Expect no less.

Hey. You can clearly see it is B1 retail 980X in there.
If the base temperature reacts quickly on CPU load,
I think it will tell us good enough how you can handle the temperature with this product. Thermal probe is in the base very near the CPU itself and it would not react that fast, if it would not be where it is now

Just check the video again and then send me PM if there is still something which bothers you on it

[SF3D]

petri , u forget to show me ur pot in taiwan , when u are in my lab ... damn i still cant pronounce the "rr" sound with my tongue .

Yes, I did not have any extra ones with me unfortunately. I will deliver one of them soon, so you can see it on your own eyes

By the way... rrr rrrr rrrrrrrr video is hilarious

[chew*]

Hey. You can clearly see it is B1 retail 980X in there.
If the base temperature reacts quickly on CPU load,
I think it will tell us good enough how you can handle the temperature with this product. Thermal probe is in the base very near the CPU itself and it would not react that fast, if it would not be where it is now


Just check the video again and then send me PM if there is still something which bothers you on it

I'm referring to your first post with your pot that got deleted

Try doing a scientific test with a milled out IHS for a probe and then get back to me on how pot temps are even remotely relevant Pot temps means nothing, the ability of pot to transfer cold and at what rate is all that matters.

I've done it so has sampsa.

[chew*]

With rocket base it will be very similar to VENOM

I Guess that depends on which "venom" one has

[SF3D]

Try doing a scientific test with a milled out IHS for a probe and then get back to me on how pot temps are even remotely relevant

I've done it so has sampsa.

Yes, we have done it as well with Sami
You don't need to be rocket scientist to see the delta with two probes or the HS temp with some milled groove. We have a plan to test different pots with the CPU sampsa got from AMD.

[k|ngp|n]

With rocket base it will be very similar to VENOM

This base is solid for AMD overclocking on LN2.
This pot replaces both venom and ee, both are no longer made.

[chew*]

Yes, we have done it as well with Sami
You don't need to be rocket scientist to see the delta with two probes or the HS temp with some milled groove. We have a plan to test different pots with the CPU sampsa got from AMD.

Thats more like it and what i'm looking forward to seeing.

[k|ngp|n]

The slower base is the one I demo'd at quakcon. I ran a gulftown looping vantage for very long times at NVIDIA's booth. Most of the time the chip was clocked 6.2-6.4ghz 1.825v, one time about 6hrs straight. The chip had a coldbug 10 degrees from full pot, so this cold bug base was great. Easy to maintain that with a good touch. I was showing some guys from OCA and my bench team it was easy too keep the chip from coldbugging GOING FROM GAME TEST TO CPU TEST IN VANTAGE AS WELL AS GAME TEST TO CPU TEST AND ABCK TO GAME TEST AGAIN IN 2k6, even when its while holding 10 degrees from full pot temps, where normally a pot goes berserk and there is little control to due the coppers conductivity below -165c

and of course if u have a pimp hand like Nicky, you can control the temps like an ace with the fast pot

[nickshih]

and of course if u have a pimp hand like Nicky, you can control the temps like an ace with the fast pot

pimp hand ....means that my "3th" hand is nimble as my another two ?..