AMD Ontario APU pictured,die size ~77mm^2

[informal]

Links:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,77...ypen/CPU/News/
http://www.mobicroco.de/hersteller-u...gie/19020.html
http://www.computerbase.de/news/hard...fa-im-einsatz/














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I think that the 77mm^2 die size is for a dual core version.


edit:
Die shot comparison,Ontario Vs Atom(courtesy of Hans de Vries):

[Oliverda]

Links:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,77...ypen/CPU/News/
http://www.mobicroco.de/hersteller-u...gie/19020.html
http://www.computerbase.de/news/hard...fa-im-einsatz/







I think that the 77mm^2 die size is for a dual core version.

IMHO, it won't have a native single core version.


Intel Atom "Pineview" single-core: 66 mm² (6.5 W-10 W TDP)

Intel Atom "Pineview" dual-core: 87 mm² (13 W TDP)


It's going to be an Atom killer.

[blindbox]

What's with the patternful pin arrangement?

http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/30669/9/

Is that a die-shot?

[Sn0wm@n]

ati's heritage is in that chip ...


markham,ontario,canada




yes blindbox that is a die shot

[blindbox]

I have no idea which one is which on that one (though I guess the bottom are the shader cores). I know the chip got all the sections computer-placed but that thing looks mind-boggling.

[Tomasis]

looking forward for tiny laptop

[Chumbucket843]

What's with the patternful pin arrangement?

http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/30669/9/

Is that a die-shot?

yes, but not the layer(s) you are used to seeing.

[demonkevy666]

yes, but not the layer(s) you are used to seeing.

well lets forget that this is CPU & GPU all in one.

[informal]

Just read the inquirer's article and laughed.These guys are clueless.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...cate+processor

AMD launches Fusion Zacate processor
Exclusive Coming in high end desktops in late 2011
By Rob Coppinger
Fri Sep 03 2010, 14:45

IT'S MORE POWER to AMD's Fusion range as the company has announced today at IFA 2010 the Zacate 18W Accelerated Processor Unit (APU).

Zacate is rated at twice the power draw of AMD's previously announced APU Ontario, which consumes 9W.

The higher power consumption is due to the higher frequency Zacate will run at, but AMD declined to reveal that. What AMD did tell The INQUIRER in a one-on-one briefing at IFA 2010 is that Zacate will be in Vision branded nettop and low-power desktop systems in the latter half of 2011, with chips shipping to manufacturers in the first half of the year. Zacate will also tip up eventually in 11-inch notebooks and above.

Like Ontario, Zacate is a 32nm product. It has two Bobcat cores but will come on the Brazos chipset platform. The third Fusion chip, codenamed Llano, is expected in the first half of 2011, has four Bulldozer cores and is targeted at high end notebooks. AMD also confirmed that Orochi is a Vision product that will be aimed at the server market. It will have a Bulldozer core.

As Ontario has now been announced as a 9W processor this power consumption means its use will be limted to notebooks smaller than 11-inches. AMD also says Ontario will be available for "unique small for factors," which the company is somewhat coy about but could mean tablets. µ

I don't think they managed to get one thing right.

[Sn0wm@n]

lol orochi a fusion cpu ... LOLL

[saaya]

9W!!!!!
awesome!

i might replace my culv with this if perf is decent and it overclocks!

[bamtan2]

it is entirely possible that this chip will be awesome, and will make amd look really good. K6 good.

[qcmadness]

Then it is really a Atom-Killer

[SimBy]

I wonder how powerful the GPU part will be, I'm guessing it won't run Crysis or drop any jaws, but still it should make Atom obsolete, at least on paper.

[informal]

Well supposedly it has 80SP so it should be in the range of Cedar,so ~5450 level of performance.

[qcmadness]

I wonder how powerful the GPU part will be, I'm guessing it won't run Crysis or drop any jaws, but still it should make Atom obsolete, at least on paper.

Atom will go Out-Of-Order in 2012 /2013?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3863/a...t-chips-2010/2

Intel has committed to using in-order architectures in Atom for 4 - 5 years post introduction (that would end sometime in the 2012 - 2013 time frame).

Well supposedly it has 80SP so it should be in the range of Cedar,so ~5450 level of performance.

I think the IGP performance will be lower due to lower memory bandwidth unless there is a side-port-like feature (low chance due to power consumption and cost reasons).

[Sn0wm@n]

Well supposedly it has 80SP so it should be in the range of Cedar,so ~5450 level of performance.

more then enough for some hardware accelerated 3d encoding decoding task .... given that the gpu can be used if the app supports it

[SimBy]

Well supposedly it has 80SP so it should be in the range of Cedar,so ~5450 level of performance.

Makes sense. I think HD5450 is around 19W TDP. By bringing it on die they prolly saved a lot of power.

[LightSpeed]

This is going to allow some interesting notebook designs. 2 Bobcat cores + 80SP GPU + some form of sideport would be awesome. Forget the sideport, it'd still be awesome

Atom is painfully slow, even with an SSD it feels sluggish.

[qcmadness]

Makes sense. I think HD5450 is around 19W TDP. By bringing it on die they prolly saved a lot of power.

By power gating?

This is going to allow some interesting notebook designs. 2 Bobcat cores + 80SP GPU + some form of sideport would be awesome. Forget the sideport, it'd still be awesome

Atom is painfully slow, even with an SSD it feels sluggish.

Unless you want absolutely low-power x86 platform, Atom is way too slow for Windows usages.

[superrugal]

This to me is amazing.

Also a new statement on the performance we were able to be carried away AMD, the APU is to Zacate noticeably faster than an Intel Pentium Dual-Core (Core-based to be),

http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=3681

http://translate.google.com/translat...%3Fnews%3D3681

[~CS~]

80SP's ? You guy are very optimistic,I would speculate 40, maybe less if they change the shader groups.That would also be plenty to stomp over atom GPU and playback 1080p.

[informal]

In conversation with John Taylor we learned more details and also a Zacate APU and package in BGA design in the hands could hold. The package measures approximately 1.5 x 1.5 cm edge length, the the APU is slightly smaller than a RV810 GPU (63 mm²), see picture above. Zacate, the "little" brother Ontario 9 Watt reveals as stated above, a TDP of 18 watts, exactly half. Both models differ in the number of core (dual core) nor in the functionality, only the clock rates will be lower at Ontario, also it should be this selected with lower voltage. The new "high speed bus" between CPU and GPU core should be also strongly been optimized for GPU computing applications and only the true strengths of the APU can play.
To a new statement performance we could get carried away AMD, so you should not compete Zacate APU noticeably faster than an Intel Pentium dual core (core base), Sandy Bridge with Intel's would line up, including Llano, the second AMD APU is responsible for this. And also, more specifically four Llano-dies could we take look at, but again no photos were allowed. Accordingly you are our eye must believe, Llano about the size of a Propus core (169 mm²), however, comes in the form of a somewhat longer.

So Ontario/Zacate is less than 70mm^2? And Llano is less than 170mm^2?

[LightSpeed]

Holy 63mm^2. I dont think it will be 80SP then, most probably 40.

Those must be hella cheap to manufacture

[qcmadness]

Holy 63mm^2. I dont think it will be 80SP then, most probably 40.

Those must be hella cheap to manufacture

The Atom chip reduced Intel's profit by lowering the demand of highly lucrative ultra-low-voltage chips.

AMD has nearly zero presence in the ultra-low-voltage market, so Ontario should make a huge impact.