The Sandy Bridge Preview (Anand)

[Sam_oslo]

These mainstream SB seams to be meant (the preparation) for great mobile CPUs.

The clock-4-clock performance increase is impressive for these CPUs, but this IGP would make a lot more sense in a laptop than desktop, this combination will make a big splash on laptops, soon

These mainstream SB is not too bad for desktops, but the high-end SB would decide the real impact on desktop. I think we will see a much greater impact on laptops than desktops in coming months.

[god_43]

lol ignore lists are more useful everyday! anand isn't always straight when it comes to Intel. ill wait till the cpu comes out...not that i would buy it...just curious.

[qcmadness]

lol ignore lists are more useful everyday! anand isn't always straight when it comes to Intel. ill wait till the cpu comes out...not that i would buy it...just curious.

SandyBridge is an evolutionary step for Intel Nehalem / Westmere architecture.
~10-20% IPC gain is not that much.

[tajoh111]

guys, its no corect good full test of SB, but "pro Intel" marketing preview...No atack to SB, it will good CPU, but now its only Intels reaction at Bulldozer technology dates from Hotchips

Bulldozer was a tech slideshow with no performance numbers, this is a performance preview bordering on a full review. This is a sign of iness more than anything from intel. They are showing AMD they are not scared and might as well reveal its cards now because they are confident AMD will not show them up.

[ajaidev]

When anand said about the K series he did not mention the AMD's unlocked processors as one of the reasons why he K series exist.

[PatRaceTin]

Interesting on K version

[kl0012]

~10-20% IPC gain is not that much.

Is it? I wonder if ppl are serious saing such things.

[Rebel44]

Still no info about OC options for 2011 socket CPUs

[richierich]

Still no info about OC options for 2011 socket CPUs

Of course not, they want you to purchase their current goods now, instead of playing the waiting game.

[kl0012]

Still no info about OC options for 2011 socket CPUs

At least for now it seems overclockability through bclk (dmiclk) remains unchanged on S2011 platform.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...overclocking/1

[Metroid]

Single thread performance is chaotic also expect exorbitant prices for K editions, will be worth? lol

I'm seeing a light in the end of a tunnel, is it AMD? lol

[ajaidev]

Price to segment would be same/similar.

[kl0012]

i5-2500K in the price range of i5-760 looks interesting.

[Metroid]

2500k version for only £150. It is too good to be true. I will believe when I see it.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...21x-95W-Retail

[Xoulz]

Doesn't Fusion make all of this irrelevant?

[Sam_oslo]

2500k version for only £150. It is too good to be true. I will believe when I see it.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...21x-95W-Retail

2500k for £150 wouldn't surprise me, because this is the segment where AMD can compete. It is too early to speculate on prices, but my bet would be on really low prices for the whole range of mainstream SB.

[Mungri]

Price to segment would be same/similar.

So will X58 / I7 970 remain high end and a valid upgrade path instead of Sandy Bridge?

[rado992]

Dont think so, anand simply doesnt have any info on the high-end roadmap. Notice how they added ">" in front of the high end i7's noting either price drops or Sandy Bridge replacements.

[geo]

with the exception of Video encloding Sandy bridge Corei5 almost matches hexcore 980X and with this power envelope ...... holy e and that too from Mainstream 661 equivalent.!

[Hornet331]

~10-20% IPC gain is not that much.

LOL.. do people actually understand what they are saying?

10-20% increase in IPC (on x86) not much?

[Olivon]

10-20% better IPC is really good

Looking for LGA 2011 iterations ...

[rado992]

No, for Intel, it's not much. If it was AMD, however, it would be a MASSIVE increase. I wonder why

On topic: I find it hard to believe that an LGA 1155 part is matching the 980X in so many cases AND consumes less.. and the IGP performance with only half the shaders enabled is really promising. Makes me wonder what the high end would do to today's parts.

[geo]

on a side note ,Now i know why anand buries any amd information with intel news.
On to the cpu.

New socket, cheaper chipset has locked memory frequency, so you have to buy the more expensive one.
No move downards in the pricing structure of the cpu itself, sad but expected.
"There will be some wiggle room as far as I can tell, but it’s not going to be much. Overclocking, as we know it, is dead."
And anand havent screamed about ,if it was something like a small move.
Yea you can buy K`s and move multis, but what about fsb ?And you have to pay MORE.
"As a result, on P67 motherboards you’ll be able to adjust your memory ratios to support up to DDR3-2133."

Only ratios, so no fine tuning and of course, on the more expensive chipset.
Dammit intel!

Well, now i wont buy it even if bulldozer wont be the second coming of jesus.

EDIT.Didnt Dr.Who commented this no OC rumours to be false ?

Hi.
Can I ask you an honest question?
Who ever said you have the right to expect a company to make low end items that can be clocked to equal the high end items so that people won't buy the high end items?
Was it nice to be able to buy a i7-920 and get the speeds of the 975?
Yup,you bet it was but it's not a given or even our right to expect it.
Now I like to OC my systems just as much as anyone else but I take what exists and do the best I can with it.
Bottom line performance to me with SB will be how it compares to previous generations in pure computational power at a given speed.
Oh,and to answer your comment,I don't sleep on cash unless it's pennies that fell out of my pocket into the bed!

There is no point rationalizing Intel's poor decision to deliberately crippled SB with regards to overclocking.

It not like Intel's sales were harmed with C2D and i Series overclocks. IMO these things happen with monopolies. Look at how intel brought back overclocking big time with C2D. when there was good competition from AMD. The original reason to overclock is to get as much performance as possible out of your system, specially useful if you are short on money Collage, new job etc. Businesses wont overclock their office systems anyway nor will pro server/rendering farms
This is just hurting the enthusiast crowd who want more bang for their buck.

[trinibwoy]

There is no point rationalizing Intel's poor decision to deliberately crippled SB with regards to overclocking.

On the other hand there's no point rationalizing people's feeling of entitlement either.

[kl0012]

This is just hurting the enthusiast crowd who want more bang for their buck.

Isn't K-series targets espetially the "enthusiast" crowd? After all it seems that mainstream K-series is going to be pretty affordable and makes the "enthusiast" life much easier.
Also theres nothing new in SB limited overclocking. I mean this is not because the overclocking is locked on the chip level, but because the lack of appropriate PCI-e multipliers inside the cpu. There was chipset in the past without appropriate AGP multipliers and this didn't stop a real enthusiast from an overclocking, it just was a bit harder job. I mean overclocking these days is not what it was some time ago.