New rumor about ATI Southern Islands

[tajoh111]

Have 3dmarks scores from a card ever been leaked this early?

[LordEC911]

~2 months? Yes.

[-Boris-]

Fake scores have always been leaked early...

[saaya]

Fake scores have always been leaked early...

hahah good point
12k sounds about right though... less than that and i totally agree, why would anybody upgrade? it would only make sense if it would be really affordable like 300$ or so...

[demonkevy666]

6.4ghz Gddr5.....

a while ago people said there was a memory bandwidth limitation on ati cards

[mindfury]

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=1434

It seems drivers are already present for R9xx in the newest Mac OS X 10.6.5 beta.

ATIRadeonX3000.kext (and other relevant kexts) has the following devices listed.

ATIRadeonX3000AMDCaymanHardware
ATIRadeonX3000AMDBartsHardware
ATIRadeonX3000AMDTurksHardware
ATIRadeonX3000AMDCaicosHardware

[netkas]

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=1434

give link to original ok? http://netkas.org/?p=539

[mindfury]

http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1500103-1-1.html

[saaya]

jesus christ... thats almost double the gddr5 clock of a 460
and almost double the vantage X score too...
so maybe thats why nvidia didnt launch a 490?
cause ati will be able to beat that with a single gpu card within a few weeks?

looks like there will be a red 460 soon... i wonder how much itll cost...
and damn... 12k vantage X with a single card, at stock!
just imagine quadfire with those cards... itll be ridiculously fast... i mean you could probably play on several 30" displays... in 3d... with everything maxed out...

[Florinmocanu]

and a Unigine score from same source.
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1500103-1-1.html

[Mech0z]

jesus christ... thats almost double the gddr5 clock of a 460
and almost double the vantage X score too...
so maybe thats why nvidia didnt launch a 490?
cause ati will be able to beat that with a single gpu card within a few weeks?

looks like there will be a red 460 soon... i wonder how much itll cost...
and damn... 12k vantage X with a single card, at stock!
just imagine quadfire with those cards... itll be ridiculously fast... i mean you could probably play on several 30" displays... in 3d... with everything maxed out...

Well tbh thats the "problem" there is no real reason to upgrade anymore as games are not demanding enough, we have enough GPU power now and cpu is the same really. Its only if you play in 25xx x 16xx or multidisplay that these new cards are worth upgrading to, I dont get why I bought a HD5870 in the first place, I could play all my lousy RTS games on my 8800GTS 512 anyway :s

Ps: I hate my inner upgrade junkie!
Pps: selling my computer now and getting a Thinkpad X201t and a ViDock like solution.

[Frontl1ne]

screenies

To compare, my 5870 at 1000/1200 scores 19336 GPU score in Performance and 10163 GPU score in Extreme.

[Florinmocanu]

Just found a Unigine 2.1 test with GTX 480/5870.

http://www.geeks3d.com/20100525/quic...-tessellation/



Results:

EVGA GTX 480 Scores

GTX 480 clocks – GPU:700MHz, memory:1848MHz and shader:1401MHz

OpenGL 4.0
Res: 1920×1080 fullscreen
Tessellation mode: Extreme
- Score: 916
- FPS = 36.4
- Min FPS = 6.1
- Max FPS = 89.4

Direct3D 11
Res: 1920×1080 fullscreen
Tessellation mode: Extreme
- Score: 970
- FPS = 38.5
- Min FPS = 17.6
- Max FPS = 95.5


GeForce GTX 470 Scores

GTX 470 clocks – GPU:607MHz, memory:1674MHz and shader:1215MHz

OpenGL 4.0
Res: 1920×1080 fullscreen
Tessellation mode: Extreme
- Score: 719
- FPS = 28.5
- Min FPS = 5.9
- Max FPS = 70.4

Direct3D 11
Res: 1920×1080 fullscreen
Tessellation mode: Extreme
- Score: 768
- FPS = 30.5
- Min FPS = 13.5
- Max FPS = 76.1


Radeon HD 5870 Scores

- HD 5870 clocks – GPU:850MHz and memory:1200MHz
- Drivers: Catalyst 10.4

OpenGL 4.0
Not supported yet.

Direct3D 11
Res: 1920×1080 fullscreen
Tessellation mode: Extreme
- Score: 531
- FPS = 21.1
- Min FPS = 6.5
- Max FPS = 74.4


It looks like Cayman will kick ass, since now is up to par with GTX 480 in DX11 but better in anything else, for a lot less TDP.

[mindfury]

Just found a Unigine 2.1 test with GTX 480/5870.

http://www.geeks3d.com/20100525/quic...-tessellation/

No AA？


http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=25391&page=6

1,920x1,080 with 4x AA and 16x AF

[Florinmocanu]

That's true, it had no AA, but couldn't find another one that fast :P. What is obvious is that with 4x AA and 16 AF, the future 6870 is faster than any other single GPU in Unigine, which is impressive for a refresh.

[mindfury]

From S|A forum:

It is a bit bigger than Evergreen, and a hair bigger than GF104. I think it is in the 380mm^2 range, but I could be wrong there.

-Charlie

[RaZz!]

guys, we're going in circles here. could we keep the discussion in one thread instead of the same pics etc in 2 seperate ones? this would make keeping up with new posts a bit easier imo

what i mean are the coherencies between this thread and the "6870 benchmarked" one.

[Kimofil]

Impressive scores! Much faster than 480!

[AKM]

Damn, seeing these results I really regret purchasing a 460 1Gb. Should have waited just a little longer

[Olivon]

Impressive scores! Much faster than 480!

Yeah right, impressive results with da HD 6870.

Great work ATi

[Kimofil]

Yeah right, impressive results with da HD 6870.

Great work ATi

Yeah, and i waited for 6970 benchmarks!

[Jowy Atreides]

looks like there will be a red 460 soon... i wonder how much itll cost...
and damn... 12k vantage X with a single card, at stock

Imagine the 6970

[RPGWiZaRD]

I also think that the benchmark thread and this could be merged.

HD 6xxx series especially that HD 6870 looking to shape up very well, like better than most people's expectations I bet taking into account this refresh 40nm had rather uncertain existance for starters and been on quite tight schedule with not much room for improvements. I do believe in these benchmarks not being fake, cuz somehow every rumors handed out so far, pricing, specs, performance seems to go rather hand-in-hand and by logic it was almost certain ATI/AMD would aim to make 6870 slightly faster (OK I personally think it looks a bit more than "slightly" so far) than GTX 480 and the full 512 SP variant to make life even more difficult (read lose market share). But everytime things don't go as well as you planned but looks like HD 6xxx development have went VERY smooth (again not suprising as it's still 40nm which they master by now and this isn't a drastic change from previous series). Would really be interesting to hear an interview with the person in charge of HD 6xxx development.

[madcho]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...s_Sources.html

No more ATI brand in 6xxx said by xbit labs ...

[Carfax]

I'm going to ROFLMAO if these benchmarks turn out to be fake

They seem too good to be true, and you know what they say about being too good to be true... Fake benchmarks always circulate before a new card is released.. You guys should know that by now, so don't put all of your eggs in one basket eh?

And correct me if I'm mistaken, but memory overclocking never had much of an impact on HD 5870 performance compared to overclocking the core..

So with that said, where does the assumption come from that the HD 5870 architecture is bandwidth limited?