New rumor about ATI Southern Islands

[Carfax]

Coming from a nvidia fanboy, I'm not going to give anything you say much weight. Maybe you could post some more physix hype threads instead of flinging poo in an Ati thread?

Ignorance is bliss seems to be the favorite mantra for fanATIcs? You don't have to take anything I say.. Look it up for yourself..

Though I'm sure you won't. You'd rather stay in la la land and believe that ATI has the same IQ as Nvidia..

IS or WAS?

Don't answer unless you can back up your claims.

Unless they've redone their drivers, nothing has changed. In the Guru3d article, they used the 10.6 drivers and the IQ was still inferior to Nvidia's.

This is 1000 years old but some of it still applies

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1154593,00.asp

Keyword "some."

[RaV[666]]

Carfax, just being objective here, but, what is your ati vs nvidia thing has to do with title of this thread ?
I mean, when it goes out, and there will be benchmarks and shots, of games using new cards and new drivers, then maybe it will have some point compare games and IQ.But now its pointless isnt it ?

[RaV[666]]

Double post dl please

[RPGWiZaRD]

Many of you are talking about "cheats" like it was a bad thing but I actually concider it as a good thing to get extra performance if you can do it without noticing the difference while gaming and not studying a zoomed in screenshot. I'd actually go as far as encourage both Nvidia and AMD to find ways of doing different technics differently for better performance as long as there's no noticable IQ difference without analyzing it more closely. I would always turn off options that give no noticable IQ improvements in favor for extra performance, knowing that I get less IQ in practice that I don't quite notice while gaming is just some BS to me not worth a thing even if I had bought a $500+ GPU.

[Calmatory]

Many of you are talking about "cheats" like it was a bad thing but I actually concider it as a good thing to get extra performance if you can do it without noticing the difference while gaming and not studying a zoomed in screenshot. I'd actually go as far as encourage both Nvidia and AMD to find ways of doing different technics differently for better performance as long as there's no noticable IQ difference without analyzing it more closely.

..why not just use bilinear or trilinear filtering then? It's like you're saying that it is good that the companies FORCE your AFx16 to trilinear.

@Carfax: Is there any info whether tweaks like that have appeared recently, or have they been around for long?

[Carfax]

Carfax, just being objective here, but, what is your ati vs nvidia thing has to do with title of this thread ?
I mean, when it goes out, and there will be benchmarks and shots, of games using new cards and new drivers, then maybe it will have some point compare games and IQ.But now its pointless isnt it ?

You know what, you're 100% right.. The AF fiasco has already been covered, and there's no use in beating a dead horse with a stick..

@Carfax: Is there any info whether tweaks like that have appeared recently, or have they been around for long?

As far as I know, they've been around for years in one form or another. Like the article that Ajaidev posted, ATI has always been a big believer in selective use of AF since the days of the 9700/9800 series. It's now evolved way past that now though..

Anyway, I'm done with that topic..

[RPGWiZaRD]

..why not just use bilinear or trilinear filtering then? It's like you're saying that it is good that the companies FORCE your AFx16 to trilinear.

That's not what I meant. If you can do different techniques like AF or AA differently and the difference in IQ might only be visible if zoomed in. If you can find ways to do it with less performance impact with neglible difference in IQ then I'm all for it. Forcing AF16x to trilinear has nothing to do with this. That's forcing AF into trilinear when trilinear isn't the same technique as AF. However if you can do AF with another algorithm but with same results albeit lower performance hit and difference in IQ only visible if zoomed in I'm all for it.

[Klarko]

Anyway, I'm done with that topic..

Dude nothing youve said had to do with the Original post anyway, you were never on the topic to begin with.

[eric66]

Dude nothing youve said had to do with the Original post anyway, you were never on the topic to begin with.

i am glad that he didn't mention pissx again though

[bill_d]

Dude nothing youve said had to do with the Original post anyway, you were never on the topic to begin with.

by his posts here i think he's trying for nvidia focus group member

[Iconyu]

by his posts here i think he's trying for nvidia focus group member

nvidia is a little more selective, they try not to pick people who get blocked.

[mindfury]

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121384-1-1.html

Cayman XT,2XDVI+2XMini DP+HDMI

[bill_d]

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121384-1-1.html

Cayman XT,2XDVI+2XMini DP+HDMI

looks like two 8 pin power plugs

[mindfury]

looks like two 8 pin power plugs

It's 6pin+8pin.

[generics_user]

Ignorance is bliss seems to be the favorite mantra for fanATIcs? You don't have to take anything I say.. Look it up for yourself..

Though I'm sure you won't. You'd rather stay in la la land and believe that ATI has the same IQ as Nvidia..



Unless they've redone their drivers, nothing has changed. In the Guru3d article, they used the 10.6 drivers and the IQ was still inferior to Nvidia's.





Keyword "some."

i fail to see a difference aside form the fact that the images are cropped differently (nvidia one goes further to the right)

[Florinmocanu]

the nvidia one is a bit sharper, but i would like to see the image as it is, not a zoomed in one. If when your not zoomed in you don't see the difference, then i don't care.

[hurleybird]

nvidia shot looks sharper

[El Mano]

I find funny the fact that they use a DX9 game with poor graphics to compare the latest graphics hardware.

[-Boris-]

Could that pic be with AA on? Maybe should use another game?

I could do the exact same thing with another game, only this time, you actually notice the difference.



If pic doesn't work you have it here:
http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?im...dfMV8xX2wucG5n

[Florinmocanu]

Ati looks sharper here.

[mindfury]

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121412-1-1.html

Caicos (HD6300) 64-bit 1GB 4pcs 128Mx16 DDR3 650e/800m 4L，UVD3+3D Blueray

[ajaidev]

Very nice up's mindfury

[slaveondope]

Keep them coming MindFury

[flopper]

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121412-1-1.html

Caicos (HD6300) 64-bit 1GB 4pcs 128Mx16 DDR3 650e/800m 4L，UVD3+3D Blueray

so 4 of those in quadfire should make a good gaming rig then

[cold2010]

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121384-1-1.html

Cayman XT,2XDVI+2XMini DP+HDMI

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