JF: its possilbe at AM3+ (under heatspreader) get 5-6 modules Zambezi? For future models or if it will needed ?
JF: its possilbe at AM3+ (under heatspreader) get 5-6 modules Zambezi? For future models or if it will needed ?
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CPUs:i9-7900X, i9-9900K, i7-6950X, i7-5960X, i7-8086K, i7-8700K, 4x i7-7700K, i3-7350K, 2x i7-6700K, i5-6600K, R7-2700X, 4x R5 2600X, R5 2400G, R3 1200, R7-1800X, R7-1700X, 3x AMD FX-9590, 1x AMD FX-9370, 4x AMD FX-8350,1x AMD FX-8320,1x AMD FX-8300, 2x AMD FX-6300,2x AMD FX-4300, 3x AMD FX-8150, 2x AMD FX-8120 125 and 95W, AMD X2 555 BE, AMD x4 965 BE C2 and C3, AMD X4 970 BE, AMD x4 975 BE, AMD x4 980 BE, AMD X6 1090T BE, AMD X6 1100T BE, A10-7870K, Athlon 845, Athlon 860K,AMD A10-7850K, AMD A10-6800K, A8-6600K, 2x AMD A10-5800K, AMD A10-5600K, AMD A8-3850, AMD A8-3870K, 2x AMD A64 3000+, AMD 64+ X2 4600+ EE, Intel i7-980X, Intel i7-2600K, Intel i7-3770K,2x i7-4770K, Intel i7-3930KAMD Cinebench R10 challenge AMD Cinebench R15 thread Intel Cinebench R15 thread
Can't comment on that because a.) it is client and b.) it is future product plans.
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Core i3 2100|HD 7770|8GB RipJawsX|128gb Samsung SSD 830|Asrock Z77 Pro4-M
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i doubt we'll find anything out from AMD,maybe others but not them
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http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
Modern Ram, makes an old overclocker miss BH-5 and the fun it was
I think not. But it still remains to be seen
Who said that engineers (who provided the data for the slides and talked about constant IPC in their papers) had to develop an architecture which optimally runs code for AMD's family 10h or Intel's Sandy Bridge? It's similar to the APUs: with legacy code they are OK, but to shine they need new code. Or did nobody wonder why AMD startet to talk that much about software in the past years?
So if with appropriately compiled code BD it isn't able to achieve that "constant IPC" claim, then it failed.
In my next article I'll show how extremely legacy code like SuperPi is simply limited by a decode rate of 1-2 instructions/clock. Remember: there are actually 4 decoders.
The L1 latency seems to be well hidden, if you look at my instruction execution analysis, where many memory ops are included:
http://translate.google.com/translat...#content_start
It also has a way prediction which should be able to reduce latency in some cases. But still it's and out of order design and having only 2 EX units it should be easy to fill the voids.
I also find the decode stage to be a problem, but not because of being shared (this only causes a significant influence if it has to decode inefficiently ordered code).
I start to smell some 'optimization bias' changes between win amd intel.
Now I'm worried about Trinity, but at least it will use 2 Piledriver module and no BD
This post is so old it still has JF-AMD in it . . .
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Yea, after i went FX2 (vishera) , i did some comparisons max clock vs max clock using stable settings and same air coller.
It was not a clear cut win for the vishera ...
I remember even some discussions after i did it and people generally didnt like the idea ;-) .
Of course ON THE WHOLE vishera was better than the X6, but pretty much just because of newer process and some things like AES and other new instruction sets.
Oh i even have them.
FX 8320 @4424Mhz 1.46v NB@2520Mhz 1.32v RAM 1966Mhz 9-9-9-27-46
X6 1055T@4100Mhz 1.50v NB@2929Mhz 1.30v RAM 1562Mhz 7-8-8-23-27
3Dmark 13 Default FX=Ice Storm 114078 G190964 P47352
X6=Ice Storm 122668 G199771 P52181
FX=Cloud Gate 16731 G30975 P6412
X6=Cloud Gate 15565 G30841 P5694
FX=Fire Strike 3778 G3995 P8658 C1678
X6=Fire Strike 3674 G3821 P8774 C1701
Cinebench 11.5 64bit FX=OpenGL 76.19 CPU 7.62 SC=1.17
X6=OpenGL 73.25 CPU 7.22 SC=1.23
I did more tests, but FX only really was substantially faster in video transcode.
Makes you wonder where they would be if they would do Liano x8 +l3 instead of BD.
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Deneb was faster cpc than thuban if you recall.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/?Qwd=./Ll...competitor.jpg
It certainly would have offered improvements. I think the R&D would have been costly for the gains, there were other complications.
Last edited by chew*; 02-27-2017 at 11:16 AM.
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I think Chew mentioned there was internal discussion about building off Llano instead but they had some confidential reason it couldn't be done.
Thuban was actually pretty good value. It wasn't quite as good as the Intel offerings, but they clocked well and had reasonable IPC. Bulldozer flat out got steamrolled; if nothing else, all the delays gave Intel time to launch Sandy Bridge first.
Edit:
Chew beat me to it, guess it had to do with yield.
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