new to the cooling of liquid

[kikicoco1334]

hi, as the title showed i am some what new to the liquid cooling setup, got a few quick question

i been doing some reading and searching, didn't seem to find the clear answer to some of my special questions...

what is the biggest diff between PT.NUKE and Silver?
i am looking for a long term usage and i been told Silver is great, and PT.Nuke is very easy to use/install but comes to if i want to use the rig for 6month with out changing anything what should i pick?

if i use silver just happen to have some on hand do i have to switch out the silver ever?

[wondergod]

No difference really, both work. Silver is easiest for me, since even when I drain the loop I don't have to do anything with the silver, I just leave it in the res.

[Church]

Some even use both combined, by reasoning that something like "silver good for long term use, but for silver ion concentration buildup time is needed, so at the beginning right after filling biocide does the work". I caution though that however you use biocide, standalone or with silver, don't overdose it.

[kikicoco1334]

thanks for the info

[JoeM]

Silver is a bit of a "natural" biocide - keeps the gunk from growing in your loop. PT Nuke is an alternative biocide additive. With either of them, pay attention to the fine print. Biocides don't typically play well with each other when combined (though silver + PT might work - dunno on that one). Also, neither one has any anti-corrosive properties. Many times when you see people using PT Nuke for a biocide, they also add a bit of pentosin for anti-corrosion, primarily because the two complement each other well and keep the pH stable. It's really just two different setups. Silver coil + distilled = natural biocide and a minimum amount of electrical conductivity from the water. PT Nuke + anti-corrosive (i.e. pentosin) = strong biocide with an added corrosion deterrent because you increase the electrical conductivity of the water a bit with the additives. As wondergod said, either way works, but silver is just easier.

[kikicoco1334]

wow! very in depth answer thank you very much!

[OC Maximus]

Welcome to the dark side of liquid cooling. Muhuhuhuahahah!!!

[kikicoco1334]

lol thanks mr.OCM

[OC Maximus]

Now get yourself an avatar. Your all naked without one

[kikicoco1334]

Seems like i have ran into an issue...
I have both nickel plating and pure cooper facing in the rig, what kind pt nuke and tubing should I use here?

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/peptcobi1.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/peptpcobi1.html

or should I just stay with Silver?
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/sikibyia.html

[defect9]

silver + distilled is what I'd recommend for beginners (and lazy people like myself). get used to building a loop or two before adding one more thing to calculate.

as for tubing, primoflex has been my go-to. it depends on what you're looking for exactly in a tubing. do you want really clear, or colored, or solid white or black, or copper, or what?

nickel plating and copper play nice together, with silver, too.

[kikicoco1334]

CPU D-Tech Fuzion unsure the version with stander nozzle
GPU Swiftech MCW82 with plastic nozzle
Pump Swiftech MCP-655 no nozzle needed
Res Swiftech MCRES-Micro with plastic nozzle
Rad Swiftech MCR-360 with stander nozzle
Chipset Koolance CHC-122 with 1/4'' threaded
Motherboard Koolance MVR-100 with 1/4'' threaded

All nozzle are 1/2''s
Going to stick with Primochill or Tygon for tubings

Setup:
Asus P5K-E WIFI (only south bridge going to be air cooled)
EVGA 8800GT
Core 2 Quad Q9300 @ ????MHz (aiming for 3800/4000MHz+)
2 sets of TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX should be here any day now from RMA

[kikicoco1334]

ok this could be the BEST or THE WORST idea i have ever came up with......

so been thinking want a easy way out i'd be more than happy to get my driller out and poke some holes but before that i got some magnet from the HDDs and i can just use those magnet to hold it to the case cuz they are EXTREMELY strong and i remember i have alot of them some where in the house what do you guys think?

[defect9]

magnets near electronics? sounds like a recipe for disaster. sure, it's possible depending on how close the magnets are, and depending on the suceptibility of the circuit it's near, but still, not something I would mess with.

I'd laugh if you ended up with an aluminum case, because then it wouldn't even stick.

[ino]

If your goal is to wipe your hard drives then a magnet is a good idea, otherwise probably not

[zanzabar]

magnets near electronics? sounds like a recipe for disaster. sure, it's possible depending on how close the magnets are, and depending on the suceptibility of the circuit it's near, but still, not something I would mess with.

I'd laugh if you ended up with an aluminum case, because then it wouldn't even stick.

modern electronics (other than sound cards when using DACs and analogue out) wont be effected by magnets and im assuming that he is not sticking the magnets on the electronics and just on the rad, so it may work.

If your goal is to wipe your hard drives then a magnet is a good idea, otherwise probably not

unless u stick a magnet on the HDD it wont kill it.

[Conumdrum]

The radiator is copper and brass. So magnets won't stick. Besides then you would have to somehow mount the magnets to the stuff.

Great dream, try it someday, for now, just focus on not ruining a mobo, PSU etc with silly watercooling noob mistakes.

[kikicoco1334]

oh i forgot to tell y'all....
my hdd is not in the case it's in it's own little cage too
but i decided not to use magnets (<- those are the ones came out of the HDD they are super strong and thin you can just slide them in to the back of the screw bracket and it'll hold there with no prob and my case is FULL steel so yes magnets will stick tbh the only thing you may have to worry about is they may not coming off your case)

i am going to homedepot and getting some stuff to build myself a sliding rail like most peopl's HDD holder in there computer
i'll try post some pix when i get my camera back

[OC Maximus]

wating for pictures..... ... .. .... ... .. ..... . .. ... . ..... . .

[kikicoco1334]

working on it! >.< bestbuy havn't got me a new one yet