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    None what so ever, tested on 3 diffrent EK blocks, Tested on Koolance and some BP.

    No one who used Ours or IDC has reported any flaking what so ever.
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    No, no issues. Again, the fluid is 99% DI water. So, if you have anything in your system that DI water is going to corrode then it is a possibility. ZnO2 does not react with copper or aluminum or nickle, so it isn't going to do anything that DI water wouldn't do. I spoke to our chemist about the issue as well, and that is pretty much exactly what he told me. I'll see if I can get a nickle plated fitting and soak it in a cup of the coolant and see what happens. I keep meaning to take apart the system at the house that has been running for almost three years without any upkeep. I will see how the cpu block looks. Also, when I get home I have two blocks that were running Ice Dragon back in January that have been sitting on the bench. I will see how those look.
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    Corrosion, no. But it does stain nickel. It will require a polishing compound to remove the staining.

    After a few months of use:


    After cleaning w/ polishing compound.

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    I have your fluid, I wonder if developments are planned in the future

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    developments for the future in general?..yes. As we speak, we are working with OriginPC testing the fluid in a contained CPU cooler - like the H100. We just sent some to Fractal for the same sort of testing.

    We are currently testing the coolant in cars and motorcycles - with a strong lean towards rally racing/enduros. This is because in enduro races a lot of times you'll go through a wide open section in which you are running your engine all out, and then you come to a section in which you have to run at high rpms but you aren't moving very fast - a steep hill climb or a tight forest trail. This is when typical coolants can't handle the heat load and the engine overheats. We tried to get into NASCAR, but they wouldn't allow it.

    We are also looking into the cooling of intercoolers used in turbos.
    We have a full scale HVAC test going on at Thermal Engineering in Columbia, SC.
    We have been asked by the Air Force to build a rack mount, portable server that can be deployed into the desert and run off of their generators.

    that is all I can think of at the moment....we have CES2013 that we slowly have to get ready for too and it's only June..
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    I meant an evolution of the liquid, its components, new nanoparticles

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    We are looking into a few different nanoparticles, but the problem is really with the cost. When we initially did this project we looked at Copper, Aluminum and Zinc nanoparticles. The zinc ended performing the best even though its thermal conductivity is not the highest. We have our theory on why, but this was also nice because it was the cheapest and the friendliest when used in cooling systems. You have all kinds of nanoparticles to look into, but the cost gets really high. But, we are doing some research on some others. We should actually know in a few months how one of them works. As soon as we are done with the Origin/Coolit tests we will try this new stuff.
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    Thank you for your response

    Soon we may see a fluid with carbon nanoparticles SWCNT or MWCNT .... The price is the problem ...

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    I know this is sort of far away, but CES is offering free registration for next year's show. It ends Aug 31..

    http://registration3.experientevent....1/Default.aspx
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    Carbon nm work. weve had them under test for over 3 years how ever unlike IDC we have never managed to get them to work perfectly.
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    and our new bottle..looks good

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    here is our latest.. we are measuring all the data now...jet black

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    we call it, WARRIOR
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    the constitution of the fluid changes or is it just the color that varies ?

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    it is an entirely new nanofluid.. it will only be black
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    What happens when you mix white w/ black?

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    it'd probably turn grey..

    but, since they are entirely different I really don't know. We haven't gotten there yet. As long as the surfactants on each don't interact all should be just fine.
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    nanoparticles are always of zinc oxide ?

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    no, these are not ZnO2. You can get nanoparticles made of all kinds of different material, but the expense comes into play when looking at a majority of them.
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    how does the new batch of nano particles perform compared to the current ice dragon coolant ?

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    That is what we are working on right now. As soon as we get done I'll let everyone know and give some more details.
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    OMG. If I can get a grey coolant and not have to use dye I'd be stocked.

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    News ?

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    We are working on CES. It's a lot of stuff to take care of - believe it or not. We are going to be bringing some of the black liquid (shown above) with us, and we hope to have one other thing done by then to showcase - we are trying to get it built now. OriginPC is showing one of their Ice Dragon cooled computers at our booth. But, CES is really taking up all of our time.

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