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    would the WWF do a better job then the antifreeze because the
    antifreeze mixed with water frozed up

    would a 30%water 70%antifreeze work for me or would that get to thick
    acorrding to dabit's charts at that mix u can go down to -42C

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    Originally posted by water_cooler 20
    would the WWF do a better job then the antifreeze because the
    antifreeze mixed with water frozed up

    would a 30%water 70%antifreeze work for me or would that get to thick
    acorrding to dabit's charts at that mix u can go down to -42C
    It was the water in the antifreeze that froze. Get rid of it....forget the idea of putting water in it @ all. Try the antifreeze mixed with the methynol or the WWF. You dont want it to get slushy, and even if it can go down to -42c, that doesnt mean its not gonna be slushy.

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    does anyone know how much 3M's Fluorinert liquid FC-72 cost
    and were i could find it
    if i could get a hold of it would probably help since it freezes at
    -90C

    here is info about it
    http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...lmaterials_3_0

    or would i be better off using a 50/50 antifreeze and WWF mix

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    Originally posted by water_cooler 20
    does anyone know how much 3M's Fluorinert liquid FC-72 cost
    and were i could find it
    if i could get a hold of it would probably help since it freezes at
    -90C

    here is info about it
    http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...lmaterials_3_0

    or would i be better off using a 50/50 antifreeze and WWF mix
    FC-77 which cost 375.00/gal. 13 yrs ago when I was going to submerge my amps for car audio I compete in nationally now costs 378.00/gal. Either the prices haven't changed or my memory isn't that good. Either way its nearly 400.00 per gallon.

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    wow thats alot of $$$$$$ i guess i'm going to try out
    a mix of antifreeze and WWF
    or should i try WWF and water 1st just to see if that gets the job done

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    Forget the water. Use WWF. If it slushes, pour in a can of gas line anti-freeze. Keep adding gas line anti-freeze each time it slushes.
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    so u mean just use stright WWF

    also is WWF dangerous in any way

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    Yes. Use straight WWF.

    It is not healthy to breathe it. And you don't want it to evaporate either. For both reasons, keep it covered.
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    Does WWF small bad and would i need an airtight res to use it

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    Yes. And yes.


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    also wouldn't it be better just to run stright methanol instead of the WWF or will ether way get the job done
    also would stright methanol or WWF low viscosity cause my pump to have any problems since there viscosity is lower than water

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    Your system isn't going to get cold enough to need straight methanol. The WWF, along with a can or two of gas line anti-freeze should do the job.


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    WWF has water in it. I think its a 70/30 mix for -20F solution.

    here is a quote from another thread

    from iboomalot

    and WIPER BLUE uses methanol a form of alcohol

    see for yourself::


    quote:
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    II. HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS
    MATERIAL OR COMPONENT CAS# % OSHA PEL TLV HAZARD DATA
    Deionized Water 7732-18-5 67.00
    Methanol 67-56-1 33.00
    Pyaklor S-405 Blue N/A


    HMIS:Health-1, Flammability-3, Reactivity-0, Personal Protection-B
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    entire link can be seen here

    http://www.douglasproducts.com/commercial/msds_ww.html
    "WWF low viscosity cause my pump to have any problems "

    No its lower than water but thats a good thing for better flow and cooling properties. Its not too much lower to endanger your pumps.
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    should i use copper tubing instead of plastic water tubing for my water cooling sys this way i don't have to deal with brittle tubing at cold temps

    like in this article
    http://wc101.com/articles/coppertubing.php
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    Originally posted by water_cooler 20
    should i use copper tubing instead of plastic water tubing for my water cooling sys this way i don't have to deal with brittle tubing at cold temps

    tygon R-1000 would be killer its good to very low temps and its very flexible.
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    is it expensive

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    My res isint 100% air tight. Is the WWF in there killing me?
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    TYGON® R-1000 Ultra Soft Tubing

    Ultra-soft and flexible
    Performs well at low temperatures (to -100°F)
    Excellent for use in low-torque pump applications


    Tygon® R-1000
    Tygon® Ultra-Soft Tubing resists a broad range of aqueous chemicals and provides an excellent alternative to silicone tubing in applications where corrosive chemicals are used. Its minimal resistance to compression permits use in low-torque pump applications including battery driven types.

    Tygon® Ultra-Soft Tubing stays flexible at temperatures as low as -100°F (-73°C ). Its smooth bore facilitates easy cleaning and helps prevent possible buildup. Do not autoclave. Durometer hardness: Shore A, 40.

    prices vary I think its 2 - 4.00 per foot
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    Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
    Forget the water. Use WWF. If it slushes, pour in a can of gas line anti-freeze. Keep adding gas line anti-freeze each time it slushes.
    Ok correct me if I'm wrong,But isn't WWf just 20 to 40 percent methanol (based on what brand temp rating ect.) the other ingrediants being water and a bit of detergent? if so wouldn't it be less money and hassle to just purchase the methanol add in your own water and omit the detergent you don't need ? Also giving more control over the amount of water and removing some of the guesswork.

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    Originally posted by afireinside
    My res isint 100% air tight. Is the WWF in there killing me?
    u might want to seal it from what i have read WWF has about 33% methanol which isn't good to brethe

    so were would i go about getting R1000

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    http://www.integraco.com/r1000p.htm

    50' roll is like 120.00 I can find a place that stocks smaller lengths or do an ebay search maybe.

    hunt around on the web some places want 6.00 a foot just look around you can find the 2-4.00 a foot prices
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    i found this place that has a 10fyt pack for $30
    http://www.aptinstruments.com/Mercha...Code=Vinyl_TBG

    but i think it might be cheaper to use copper tubing

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    copper for your coolant would be a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, limiting your mobility. R-1000 good choice, I'm using R-3603.

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    maybe i should just save the time and money and just use my clearflex60 that i have

    i'm also think i will probably go with methanol and water mix unless someone can give me a better idea

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