nVidia Quadro 258.96 modified driver for GeForce cards

[generics_user]

while i am completely uninterested in games-related stuff i wanted to know if this actually enables hardware acceleration for professional CAD apps?!

[TiN_]

generics_user

No, it will not enable anything professional on consumer-binned GPUs.

But if you use any software which just checks name of GPU present in system (not actually trying to verify support of pro features) - it can be fooled to enable some eye-candy stuff. I'm using "modded" in such way 259.09 driver, changed name of card from GTX 480 to Quadro 5000, so my solidworks 2010 now allow me to enable RealView with all teh effects . But in 3D-moddelling soft, like 3dsmax,maya etc you will gain nothing, coz consumer gpu locked for needed features.

[saaya]

iq is really better? wow this is so cool! thanks a lot man!

[Ket]

Lol, what is the key of "passworded" stuff?
People c'mon, it's just INF added strings for deviceIDs, nothing more i guess.

It's not "modding" much here involved, and everyone can do that. Just take nv4_disp.inf and on example of 259.09 driver:

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.5.1]
%NVIDIA_DEV.0040.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0040
%NVIDIA_DEV.0041.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0041
%NVIDIA_DEV.0042.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0042
%NVIDIA_DEV.0043.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0043
%NVIDIA_DEV.0044.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0044
%NVIDIA_DEV.0045.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0045
%NVIDIA_DEV.0046.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0046
%NVIDIA_DEV.0047.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0047
%NVIDIA_DEV.0048.01% = Section001, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0048

and so on - these are strings of "supported" devices. Just add necessary VENIDEVID here.

and in the end:

[Strings]
DiskID1 = "NVIDIA Windows XP (64 bit) Driver Library Installation Disk 1"
NVIDIA = "NVIDIA"
NVIDIA_DEV.0040.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra"
NVIDIA_DEV.0041.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800"
NVIDIA_DEV.0042.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE"
NVIDIA_DEV.0043.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XE"
NVIDIA_DEV.0044.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT"
NVIDIA_DEV.0045.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT"
NVIDIA_DEV.0046.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT "
NVIDIA_DEV.0047.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS"
NVIDIA_DEV.0048.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT "
NVIDIA_DEV.004D.01 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400"
NVIDIA_DEV.004E.01 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000"
NVIDIA_DEV.0090.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX"
NVIDIA_DEV.0091.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX "
NVIDIA_DEV.0092.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT"
NVIDIA_DEV.0093.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS"
NVIDIA_DEV.0095.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 SLI"
NVIDIA_DEV.009D.01 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500"
NVIDIA_DEV.00C0.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS "
NVIDIA_DEV.00C1.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 "

and so on

strings for "names" of DEVIDs.

And that's all, AFAIK

And driver kernel don't enable any quadro-specific stuff on cards, coz GPU is still locked. So image quality will be same as "GeForce" drivers, thus they are both unified.

Jeez I explained this a crapload of times already in the thread.. I'll say it once more, but other than that, please, don't make posts without knowing all the details.

Quadro driversets while being essentially the same as GeForce (latest Quadro and GeForce are both Fermi architecture) the Quadro variant have gone through stricter quality control, bug testing, and have been geared for absolute best image quality. Changing device IDs simply lets the drivers work on GeForce cards instead of Quadros. Theres a reason why nVidia have seperate Quadro and GeForce drivers, thats because of what I already highlighted. Quadro drivers are not intended for gaming, but they work fine as such. Quadro and GeForce would be merged as one driver if they were one and the same. Quadro device IDs would just be added to the standard GeForce driver list of ID strings

For anyone that STILL didn't get that;

GeForce:

- Gaming driver
- Less strict quality control (read: more bugs)
- Poorer image quality
- Driver releases alternate optimised for performance or image quality, not both.

Quadro:

- Corporate / Professional level driver
- Strict quality control (read: fewer bugs)
- Absolute best image quality
- Driver has equal attention paid to performance and image quality

Finally.. the absolute last time I'll say it, I've just changed device IDs to allow GeForce cards to work with Quadro drivers.

[generics_user]

generics_user

No, it will not enable anything professional on consumer-binned GPUs.

But if you use any software which just checks name of GPU present in system (not actually trying to verify support of pro features) - it can be fooled to enable some eye-candy stuff. I'm using "modded" in such way 259.09 driver, changed name of card from GTX 480 to Quadro 5000, so my solidworks 2010 now allow me to enable RealView with all teh effects . But in 3D-moddelling soft, like 3dsmax,maya etc you will gain nothing, coz consumer gpu locked for needed features.

ok back to ebay hunting for a decent firepro or quadro card

with the hd2900 it was very easy to mod it to a firepro but by now amd switched to hardwarelocks and nvidia cards weren't modable at all...

[Ket]

Something people might want to try. Users of standard GeForce drivers complain of black distant textures in Assassins Creed 2. Try these Quadro modded drivers with that game. I'm curious to know if that black textures bug is magically fixed with a Quadro driver.

[TiN_]

Ket

I'm not against using "quadro" drivers on geforce.
The only question, why to invent some passwords or such for inf-modified drivers? Whats the point?
I could add password for that SLI hack too, but that could only render less people try it, and less people get gains from it.

I'm just think, that there is no any quality improvment vs usual geforce drivers, with both stock same settings for both drivers.
I'm not gamer, but kinda interested in 3D scene since Riva 128 cards. And all quadros at that time was literally same till GeForce3 / Quadro DCC.

[Ket]

As I said in first post, XS exclusive. I want feedback from people I know to a large degree aren't going to mistake something thats not a bug, as a bug. For the large part I just done these drivers cos I was bored and I'm interested to see users notes going from Geforce to the Quadro mod drivers. Clearly there are differences, as some have already remarked on how much better image quality is and its coming from users who have used GeForce drivers for a long time.

[TiN_]

I would like to see that difference examples, coz engine of both driver version is same

[leo27]

are these the performance or quality quadro drivers from nvidia's site??

[saaya]

hmmm i wouldnt say absolutely best image quality though...
ive seen both ati and nvidia tweak for performance by lowering iq, yes, for professional cards...
still, i hope it looks better than the default drivers, ill give it a try thanks!

[Ket]

are these the performance or quality quadro drivers from nvidia's site??

Their the actual Quadro drivers, not the performance Quadro drivers.

[TJ TRICHEESE]

thanks I finally got them to work by destroying everything related to nvidia and reinstalling them

[Ket]

How does image quality and performance compare to the standard Forceware? Some screenshots from a few more people using these mod drivers would benefit all those trying them I think

[flashnc]

Ket.
Can you send me the pw.
I7 @ 4.1 Bloodrage, 6gigs 1600@1644, EVGA GTX470.@ 804/1608/ @ 1.000v/mem left at stock.

I have one of the lowest volted cards Ive seen yet at stock with a .887.... I can run 750 @ .907

Im a fanatic about making sure my driver installs are spotless.

I'll give a quick review later tonight or tomorrow


PS. hmmmmm, still keeps giving me the *tmp*unavalible right now

[Ket]

You have PM

[flashnc]

thanx Ket...as soon as it will allow me to dl the driver, i'll grab it.

Do I maybe need to register at the sight?? ( never have had to before)

[flashnc]

LOL nevermind, it actually *started to allow the dl* but as soon as i clicked to dl, it became unavalible again.... I'll just keep after it...


Got it...

[Helloworld_98]

so far so good with JC2

[Ket]

Image quality? Performance comparison to regular Forceware? Screenshots do what a 1000 words can't

[TiN_]

flashnc

Just download quadro driver from NV and ask Ket to give you inf file (few kb of size).

[Helloworld_98]

just played a bit of Crysis and the textures look a lot better (understatement btw), and I think the lighting looks a bit better, not sure about that though

on the downside, with POM off it is painfully obvious and can look quite horrible when you are close, also fps can dip hugely if a helicopter is chasing you

[mica3speedy]

would these drivers have an impact on encoding with a program such as mediacoder or badaboom?

[TiN_]

Helloworld_98

any screenies for us to see that lot ?
or it never was

[Helloworld_98]

Helloworld_98

any screenies for us to see that lot ?
or it never was

I'll get some 'after' pics up for tomorrow, 17x 2.3MP bitmaps take ages to upload with my horrific connection