Andre Yang - Lifetime Ban

[ChaosAD]

I agree that cheating is not good at all. And it should be punished no matter what. But i also find lifetime ban or anything similar a little to harsh for anyone. Its not like he killed someone. He should get a second chance to prove sorry for his action whoever he is. There are some ppl that learn from their mistakes!

[naokaji]

He should get a second chance to prove sorry for his action whoever he is. There are some ppl that learn from their mistakes!

See the first post of the thread:

This is not the first time reports of score sharing by Andre has been reported

[Calmatory]

Ban all the cheaters from everywhere please. If someone has to take this hobby as seriously as to resort in cheating, then they really need to take a break from it and get to something else.

Then again, since when has competitive overclocking been fair?

[diezel]

I'm speechless pretty sad day for Ocers

[BenchZowner]

Actually it's a happy day, we now have less idi0ts in the community.

[kill_a_wat]

whoa...

when I first signed up to XS the main name I kept on hearing about is Andre Yang...

xtreme news indeed...

[Ket]

all i wanna know is why they are asking you for advice

How about because I own a PC business and I've worked with PCs for 15 years. Hardware, design, and programming. Oh, and probably because I done some work for Mushkin as well. Now, stop acting like a twat.

[justin.kerr]

Good job FUGGER!
once a cheater, always a cheater, ban em for life= good call. Glad to see this has finally came to a head.

[OhNoes!]

Ban all the cheaters from everywhere please. If someone has to take this hobby as seriously as to resort in cheating, then they really need to take a break from it and get to something else.

Then again, since when has competitive overclocking been fair?

This. The integrity of a sport (which is what extreme overclocking has become) is only as good as the collective integrity of the people playing it. There are too many flaws at both hardware (modding, flashing) and software (tweaks, drivers) levels, not to mention cherry-picking, to render all competitions null and void. The sport of extreme overclocking has a long to way to go for any competition to be deemed fair, because most top overclockers have too many advantages coming into any competition, and unless it takes such stupid mistakes like Andre, Hiwa, and the rest, their dominance of the sport would reign supreme.

[SamHughe]

Sad news for the community. Not defending these guys at all but it kinda shows the level of enthusiasm and drive the members of this community have. I hope this will be a lesson to learn for the rest. You cannot cheat your way to respect, you earn it.

[Monstru]

This is a sad news indeed

[BenchZowner]

In addition to SamHughe's post regarding respect:

Respect is hard to earn, and easy to lose.
Play dirty games and be ready to get deep down & dirty.

[spajdr]

Sad day indeed to OCers, but thanks Fugger for swift banhammer action.

[SV1SH]

Actually it's a happy day, we now have less idi0ts in the community.

[crash5s]

Well, the liquid cooling section here is now dead. Cathar doesn't post anymore, Martin M isn't involved, and Skinnee is now iced. All the brains are gone.

[BenchZowner]

Well, the liquid cooling section here is now dead. Cathar doesn't post anymore, Martin M isn't involved, and Skinnee is now iced. All the brains are gone.

That's an offense to the other members, and once again, they're not the only ones with knowledge and experience.

[Chumbucket843]

That's an offense to the other members, and once again, they're not the only ones with knowledge and experience.

this is true. a lot of people in the LC section are experts but they are very quiet. now that skinnee is gone someone else will fill his spot, not as a cheater but a WB tester/reviewer.

[crash5s]

That's an offense to the other members, and once again, they're not the only ones with knowledge and experience.

Not really. Nobody else threw out the amount of testing or data they did. Even if someone was to try and start up today, they wouldn't have the equipment or connections to actually do it.

To make matters worse the various fights that have gone on in that section, and the subsequent pissing contests involved have taken their toll.

Skinnee really was the main contributor.

[RSC]

Well done Fugger.

[Sn0wm@n]

Not really. Nobody else threw out the amount of testing or data they did. Even if someone was to try and start up today, they wouldn't have the equipment or connections to actually do it.

To make matters worse the various fights that have gone on in that section, and the subsequent pissing contests involved have taken their toll.

Skinnee really was the main contributor.

even so ... someone else will come and take that section to a higher notch of awesomeness ... dont you worry ...

[snoro]

Really all those bad comments of skinnee for that ? Yes i will now have no more respect for those guys as overclocker but i will still respect Hiwa as a good memory overclocker and tester and also Skinnee for being one of the last true watercooling tester(with vapor) that still continued to post everyday over here at xtremesystems.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

You have to ban them. It demonstrates that we here at XS (especially fugger obviously) doesn't support cheating. There's really no option for him, despite what he thinks. It's partly political.

Its sad this goes on. I have don't powerlifting competitions where high school teams destroyed other teams, but decided not to do a national meet because they would fail the drug test. Amazes me people will cheat in any realm to be "the best."

I hope guys fill their shoes. XS is basically my main source for OCing info.

[Bobsama]

Sad to say but cheaters must go. It's one thing to cheat yourself, it's another to cheat others. Hopefully, this'll give seats to other overclockers, especially in these large competitions.

[BenchZowner]

Really all those bad comments of skinnee for that ? Yes i will now have no more respect for those guys as overclocker but i will still respect Hiwa as a good memory overclocker and tester and also Skinnee for being one of the last true watercooling tester(with vapor) that still continued to post everyday over here at xtremesystems.

This might be the case for Skinnee or not, but everybody in general should be careful and not cheat in any way, doing so just wrecks your reputation ( a bit or at all ), and it's not going to be long until somebody accuses you or skinnee as an example of messing with a comparison's / review's results.

[v0dka]

Not really. Nobody else threw out the amount of testing or data they did. Even if someone was to try and start up today, they wouldn't have the equipment or connections to actually do it.

To make matters worse the various fights that have gone on in that section, and the subsequent pissing contests involved have taken their toll.

Skinnee really was the main contributor.

Oh really? LMAO there have been so many knowledgable legends in there in the last five years that I cant even remember them. Stop acting like Skinnee was some kind of oracle.