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    alternatives to rotary adapters?

    Hey all.

    I planning on doing away with my barbs and clamps as their ugly (IMO) and want to replace them with some 1/2" 3/4" compression fittings.

    Problem is I have a Heatkiller 3.0LC which will not accommodate two compression fittings side by side (not enough space between the inlet and outlet holes)

    So I thought at first to go with some 45 degree rotary adapters which would solve the problem, however I've read a fair few horror stories about leaking rotary fittings, It seems you have to be extreme careful with them and as I move my PC around at the weekends it just won't be practical.

    So are there any alternatives?



    Here's an image of my current setup


    Thanks for reading, I would really appreciate any help

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    Thats a pretty minimal setup

    But seriously, not had any problem with rotaries apart from one 45° BP

    I wouldn't worry about moving your computer around. Once you have aligned all the fittings (angled or not) and fitted the tubing they don't move that much. The rotatory function is just to get them into alignment really.
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    hi. i am using bitspower 45 rotaries. bought them in april/may and they don't leak.a few things:

    1. do not apply lateral force on them.
    2. the HK block specifically needs 45 rotary + compression. you cannot use the all in one type rotary.

    i found out too late so i have mixed a barb + 45 rotary on my rig, it's not pretty but it works. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=144

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    I'm still not feeling comfortable about using rotarys to be honest, are you guys sure that something like this won't work?
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/TFC-1...BSPP-High-Flow

    Using two of those on a HK3.0LC? maybe take the thing that compresses the tubing off before installing them on the block?

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    Rotaries are completely safe, i dont know what the big deal is about not using them..

    Have you seen them in person and attatched them to a block/compression fitting, they are fairly solid, and dont move once adjusted correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNoXiouZ View Post
    I'm still not feeling comfortable about using rotarys to be honest, are you guys sure that something like this won't work?
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/TFC-1...BSPP-High-Flow

    Using two of those on a HK3.0LC? maybe take the thing that compresses the tubing off before installing them on the block?
    Dude. that's a rotary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNoXiouZ View Post
    I'm still not feeling comfortable about using rotarys to be honest, are you guys sure that something like this won't work?
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/TFC-1...BSPP-High-Flow

    Using two of those on a HK3.0LC? maybe take the thing that compresses the tubing off before installing them on the block?
    I don't see why that wouldn't work for you. Personally I went with the enzo 45ᵒ rotary for the apogee xt...
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    Though the earlier versions of BP's rotary fittings had some defects, that's all fixed now, and I haven't heard of a leaky BP rotary in a while. In fact the fitting you selected, the Feser rotary, is more prone to leaking than the BP version .
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    The difference is that a 45 degree and compression create a second point of failure versus the one he linked too. With that being said, I use a crap load of BP 45's and have not had a single one give me any issues and I swap around my system almost on a weekly basis. I would not hesitate using a 45 adapter along with a compression fitting.
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    Ok just wanted to see if there was a different way... I'll just get the rotarys then, unfortunately I can't afford the BP's as there like £10 each, thanks for your replys guys.

    Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNoXiouZ View Post
    Ok just wanted to see if there was a different way... I'll just get the rotarys then, unfortunately I can't afford the BP's as there like £10 each, thanks for your replys guys.

    Much appreciated.
    Save up then, because the Feser rotary you linked to is prone to leaknig more often than the BP ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utnorris View Post
    The difference is that a 45 degree and compression create a second point of failure versus the one he linked too. With that being said, I use a crap load of BP 45's and have not had a single one give me any issues and I swap around my system almost on a weekly basis. I would not hesitate using a 45 adapter along with a compression fitting.
    Ah. Thanks for clarifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polizei View Post
    Save up then, because the Feser rotary you linked to is prone to leaknig more often than the BP ones.
    Dunno If I can justify £10 a fitting just so my loop looks better, would be about £100 in fittings

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNoXiouZ View Post
    Dunno If I can justify £10 a fitting just so my loop looks better, would be about £100 in fittings
    Did you not read what he said? It doesn't necessarily look better, but at least it might save you a couple of hundred $ by not leaking all over your expensive hardware.
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    Or don't spend that much just to make it look better. If it works without the rotary 45 fittings, don't use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandr0s View Post
    Did you not read what he said? It doesn't necessarily look better, but at least it might save you a couple of hundred $ by not leaking all over your expensive hardware.
    hey man chill, I did read what he said and your just jumping to an assumption that if I can't justify £100 worth of BP fittings that I would just risk it with the cheaper ones.

    I simply wouldn't do that, I trust what people have to say here and if they say the Feser's aren't good enough then I won't buy them.

    Anyone know of any 45 degree compression fittings (non-rotary)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNoXiouZ View Post
    hey man chill, I did read what he said and your just jumping to an assumption that if I can't justify £100 worth of BP fittings that I would just risk it with the cheaper ones.

    I simply wouldn't do that, I trust what people have to say here and if they say the Feser's aren't good enough then I won't buy them.

    Anyone know of any 45 degree compression fittings (non-rotary)?
    Sorry, kind of misstated my response, making it look rather angry .

    Also, I'm going to go with Polizei's suggestion and advise you to go with no rotaries at all then. There are several strategies to bend tubing very tight without it kinking, but my favorite is heating up the tubing in boiling water with something inside to keep the tubing from collapsing (smaller OD tubing, rope, or something else) . While boiling it, keep it in the shape you want it to get. After about 10-20 minutes, cool it down. Just poor the hot water out, but keep the tubing in the desired shape. After that, remove whatever you put inside the tubing, and your tubing should be ready for use .
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    As Alexandr0s said, the earlier 45º rotaries had some issues but it's all good now. Just make sure your tube isn't putting excessive tension on it and you'll be fine.

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    I have 12 TFC rotaries bought from scan in 04/08 and 10 from specialtech bought 02/09. None have leaked and ive really abused some with tube tension. These have more play than the others in the base but still do not leak. I have complete confidence in the TFC rotaries and at £3.70 each its madness to buy the bitspowers for 3x the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandr0s View Post
    Sorry, kind of misstated my response, making it look rather angry .

    Also, I'm going to go with Polizei's suggestion and advise you to go with no rotaries at all then. There are several strategies to bend tubing very tight without it kinking, but my favorite is heating up the tubing in boiling water with something inside to keep the tubing from collapsing (smaller OD tubing, rope, or something else) . While boiling it, keep it in the shape you want it to get. After about 10-20 minutes, cool it down. Just poor the hot water out, but keep the tubing in the desired shape. After that, remove whatever you put inside the tubing, and your tubing should be ready for use .
    Its cool man

    BTW I'm trying to kind a way of fitting compressions on my HK preferably without rotary's, Not really looking to flex/bend my tubing, although what you said could come in handy if I was to use rotary's and needed at way to lessen the strain on the rotary fitting.

    I found these: http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Bi...lack_1044.html

    What do you guys think? any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNoXiouZ View Post
    Its cool man

    BTW I'm trying to kind a way of fitting compressions on my HK preferably without rotary's, Not really looking to flex/bend my tubing, although what you said could come in handy if I was to use rotary's and needed at way to lessen the strain on the rotary fitting.

    I found these: http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Bi...lack_1044.html

    What do you guys think? any good?
    That should work, though you won't have full freedom of motion with that fitting. However since there is some tolerance due to the o-ring, you should be able to get it in the appropriate position.
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    Those may not point in the direction you need them to when tightened.

    Personally, I say use comps that fit and avoid the whole mess in the first place, it's not like 3/8" I.D. tubing is going to affect temps to the point you or your OC would notice.
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    yeah good point waterlogged, I don't get payed until the end of the month so I've got plenty of time to think about it. Thanks for everyone's help

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    i have over 30 compressions, about 12 45 rotarys and a few 90's, havent had one problem with these bitspower fittings... Im sure you will be fine mate..

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