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    nVidia stock falls over 40%, as top 10 worst of 2010

    The Wall Street Journal announced the top 10 worst stocks of 2010. nVidia was awarded top one in the list, with a stock fall of 45.4%.

    Nvidia Corp. -45.4%
    Dean Foods Co. -44.2%
    AK Steel Holding Corp. -44.2%
    Monsanto Co. -43.5%
    Anadarko Petroleum Corp. -42.2%
    King Pharmaceuticals Inc. -38.1%
    Alcoa Inc. -37.6%
    Office Depot Inc. -37.4%
    Diamond Offshore Drilling -37.4%
    Boston Scientific Co. -35.6%
    Source 1 (Chinese): http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/115605.htm

    However I could not find a consistent English article from WSJ but a similar blog:

    Source 2 (English): http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/06/1...tocks-of-2010/

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    A good time to buy.

    How about xs members pool their funds and buy the whole company. Then we can dictate their future products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonker View Post
    How about xs members pool their funds and buy the whole company. Then we can dictate their future products.
    I'd rather fix their rubbish marketing schemes first .

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    45% Ouch!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    I'd rather fix their rubbish marketing schemes first .
    We can kill physx while we are at it as well!
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    Good to see Monsanto on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash5s View Post
    We can kill physx while we are at it as well!
    Or make it a better, longer-lasting standard by opening up the API.

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    cant decide if this is good or bad news
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobsama View Post
    Or make it a better, longer-lasting standard by opening up the API.

    THIS. one physics api that runs on gpu's and multicore cpu's and we might finally get some real improvements in the physics area of games instead of extra flying about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonker View Post
    A good time to buy.

    How about xs members pool their funds and buy the whole company. Then we can dictate their future products.
    And then it wil probbly go bankrupt soon after or would stop being profitable.

    Because we would only want high-end stuff that doesnt use alot of power, doesnt get hot and it has to overclock and it ofc has to be very cheap.

    So profit per sold GPU would go down and research cost would go up.
    And ofc we would forbid them to make the crap cards that the OEMs currently use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surfinhicdude View Post
    Good to see Monsanto on the list.
    Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash5s View Post
    We can kill physx while we are at it as well!
    Nah wuldn't do that, i love the physX plugin for Maya 2011 and it works flawlessly, alltho i don't like the way they monopolise the stuff....

    Alltho i wuld not know anything about that since im still running my 3D apps on 2x HD3870 (cant friggin whait for my 2x 6 Core Mac Pro and 32gb DDR3 ECC sweetness.... ofc with FX 4800*

    Nah but really, i wuld like to invest in nvidia through xtreme systems to buy a percentage big enough so we culd "have a word in this matter" ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiaN View Post
    Going to buy a double intel xeon 6 core machine and FX card from nvidia cant whait to post Game benchmark with a designer card^^
    If anything professional cards are slower in games. Otherwise, they are exactly the same.

    Also, what nationality uses "whait"? I haven't seen it spelled like that before. Google has it as a misspelling of "what" more than anything.

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    I'd rather open source PhysX so ATI could adapt it as well, at least a GPU physics solution would become probably a well adopted standard then as opposed to CPU physics which already works with both Intel and AMD. But with multicore cpus the future, perhaps it aint such a bad thing anyway with CPU physics so we don't need to have 10 cores unused but on one CPU core vs a GPU, a gpu has a clear advantage if we talk efficiency, at least so far and coding physics for several CPU cores is more tricky than letting a GPU do it. As long as there's no standarded physics solution out there, game developers aren't able to make any real progress in physics usage and I'm sure if PhysX was an open standard, game devs would applaud this move and we'd see a lot more even interactive physics in games...

    But yea Nvidia will probably have to let ATI use PhysX at one point or scrap it once it would become obsolete in perhaps 4 - 6 years or so from now on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojoZ View Post
    If anything professional cards are slower in games. Otherwise, they are exactly the same.

    Also, what nationality uses "whait"? I haven't seen it spelled like that before. Google has it as a misspelling of "what" more than anything.
    I know they aren't made for games. But i as a professional 3D designer and a hobby gamer i wanted to know how these cards worked for games.

    So for those few who are like me i wuld like to do some testing ^^.
    Not going to try beat any 3D mark records out there :P

    For the "whait" i know, i have seen my spelling like this to often, im like stewie griffin, putting a weird sound in the word wait.

    Like "cool whip" "while"
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiaN View Post

    For the "whait" i know, i have seen my spelling like this to often, im like stewie griffin, putting a weird sound in the word wait.

    Like "cool whip" "while"
    Oh like an eye dialect. Fair enough.

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    So, whats going to happen to Nvidia when ATI roll out the HD 6000, as speculated to arrive by the end of this year?

    I think Nvidia's going to end up sad in their pants

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    i was going to post this but i was waiting for Q2 reports. that way we could see where they lost the money or if people just got scared and sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    So, whats going to happen to Nvidia when ATI roll out the HD 6000, as speculated to arrive by the end of this year?

    I think Nvidia's going to end up sad in their pants
    I've been an nvidia fan for a long time, but they've turned me off lately starting with the initial prices of the 2xx cards and with the choices they made when designing Fermi. I hope they take a big enough blow to force them to rethink some strategies and to come back with great products, like they did after the "FX" series mess. Rewarding companies for consistently making poor choices sucks for consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chumbucket843 View Post
    i was going to post this but i was waiting for Q2 reports. that way we could see where they lost the money or if people just got scared and sold.
    Nvidia did well in the last few financial quarters and they didnt lose much marketshare. I think people just got scared.

    And yes Nvidia dropped 40% but how did ATI/AMD and Intel etc do.
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    in 2009 amd saw like 600% difference from the 52week high and low. people who look at stocks in such a short time frame (or individual at all for that matter) are sucking the life from the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post

    And yes Nvidia dropped 40% but how did ATI/AMD and Intel etc do.

    From Jan. 4, 2010 to today.....

    Nvidia......$18.55 --> $10.22 (today's open)

    http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor...0&PeriodType=5



    AMD......$9.43 --> $7.40 (today's open)

    http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor...0&PeriodType=5



    Intel......$20.83 --> $19.55 (today's open)

    http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor...0&PeriodType=5



    But more telling is the 52-week high/low for the above stocks....


    Nvidia

    52 week high --> $18.96

    52 week low --> $9.71 (So, Nvidia today is trading very close to its 52 week low)



    AMD

    52 week high --> $10.24

    52 week low --> $3.22 (So, AMD today is trading much higher than its 52 week low)



    Intel

    52 week high --> $24.37

    52 week low --> $15.78 (So, Intel today is trading about halfway between its 52 week high and low)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    Nvidia did well in the last few financial quarters and they didnt lose much marketshare. I think people just got scared.

    And yes Nvidia dropped 40% but how did ATI/AMD and Intel etc do.
    it has less to do with market share and more with profitability. i think tsmc is really hurting gfx vendors with their 40nm process' low volume. amd has cpu sales that hide gpu business volatility.

    earnings per share:

    INTC: 1.09
    NVDA: .45
    AMD: 1.16

    EPS is a good indicator of how profitable a company is. the reason why the stock price of nvidia is "expensive" is because investors think it will go higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    Nvidia did well in the last few financial quarters and they didnt lose much marketshare. I think people just got scared.

    And yes Nvidia dropped 40% but how did ATI/AMD and Intel etc do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chumbucket843 View Post
    it has less to do with market share and more with profitability. i think tsmc is really hurting gfx vendors with their 40nm process' low volume. amd has cpu sales that hide gpu business volatility.

    earnings per share:

    INTC: 1.09
    NVDA: .45
    AMD: 1.16

    EPS is a good indicator of how profitable a company is. the reason why the stock price of nvidia is "expensive" is because investors think it will go higher.


    NV had problem with their profits they are still recovering from the losses that were incurred from the defective CPU/GPU that happened with all of their IGP u to the 9400 (we have no data on that) and the defective non g80/80 g8x parts, people only look at non gap so 1time fees like that are not taken in but the earnings per share should not reflect that. so when they got reevaluated they failed hard as they had no profits recently and they had no new products in the market for OEMs.

    NV also left the chipset biz and they were found to not be in the 3DSi but they got a bump from that so they were bound to fail as tech stocks always do bad outside of the late spring-early fall.

    buying tech about now is generally a good idea since the sector should pop soon but with the timidness of the market and banks still getting 0% loans i dont see the market taking risks so tech might not go up much if at all as a group.
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    sure the litigation is costing them money but the lawsuit is still ongoing. they will pay for the defective products and some punitive damages but it hasnt happened yet.

    also their chipset lawsuit is going to be in august.

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