Would you buy an Opteron SMP board for enthuthiasts?

[BeepBeep2]

I guess the moment is just not here yet.

Looking at the poll results so far, Asus is the top choice for boards, with many interested in 4P as well. Did we have an Asus rep here at XS in the past?

Yes, movieman is trying to get ASUS to release a modded BIOS to the public. So far he's not making too much progress. ASUS is working on it though, I believe.

[crazydiamond]

JF, do you know if Zambezi would be capable to work in 2p board if a mobo maker wanted to make one?

[Movieman]

Yes, movieman is trying to pay ASUS to release a modded BIOS to the public. So far he's not making too much progress. ASUS is working on it though, I believe.

That's not what I said.
I said I'd be willing to toss Asus $200.00 towards making a proper adjustable bios.. Very different.
I don't know anyone inside Asus with the power to get that done or I'd have called and asked..

[chew*]

Thing is, there's no loss. Just flaming at a computer screen because a multi-billion dollar corporation won't listen to a group of about ~20 people.

Even 64NOMIS has seemed to ignore this thread.

Tbh....it may seem ignored.....but i assure you it's not.

I can also assure you I am probably in hot water for not ignoring it myself but tbh it's the only way i can currently give anything on intel a run for the money so i figure it's justified.

[BeepBeep2]

That's not what I said.
I said I'd be willing to toss Asus $200.00 towards making a proper adjustable bios.. Very different.
I don't know anyone inside Asus with the power to get that done or I'd have called and asked..

Fixed.

*Hides*

[JF-AMD]

JF, do you know if Zambezi would be capable to work in 2p board if a mobo maker wanted to make one?

No, it does not have the HT links, it is designed for 1P systems.

[Movieman]

Tbh....it may seem ignored.....but i assure you it's not.

I can also assure you I am probably in hot water for not ignoring it myself but tbh it's the only way i can currently give anything on intel a run for the money so i figure it's justified.

No reason anyone should be upset with you.
There's a idea here and people exploring it.
Hell, we could find out that the chips won't OC a 100MHz or OC to the sky.
That is the point; finding out.
Not a reason for anger on anyones part and honestly, I can't see any downside to AMD.

Fixed.

*Hides*

You better hide or that last birthday you just celebrated will be just that..Your last!
"I am 15 going on 16" ..whoops, nope!"

[stangracin3]

You better hide or that last birthday you just celebrated will be just that..Your last!
"I am 15 going on 16" ..whoops, nope!"

[pokipoki]

That's not what I said.
I said I'd be willing to toss Asus $200.00 towards making a proper adjustable bios.. Very different.
I don't know anyone inside Asus with the power to get that done or I'd have called and asked..

IIRC, back in the days of Asus PC-DL & NCCH-DL (xeon boards), bios mods were requested by a member at 2cpu.com (HFU I think), who was/knew a techie at one of the main Asus distributor in the US. I guess they have the clout or the sales volume to make such requests via official support.

These bios mods were not overclocker-friendly, but the basic voltage, multiplier and FSB options were there, although not extreme. Memory straps were achieved via BSEL pin-mods, so it was a combo of hardware and bios tweaks. Memory latencies are done using software in windows. Hardware mods ensures no overclocking can be performed in a server operating environment, just by enthuthiasts. But the bios mods didn't happen overnight, it took quite some time.

Another good enthuthiast board was DH-800 (xeon) from Iwill (now defunct). Iwill also released DK8N which allows Opteron overclocking. Both boards were a hit back then, but Asus PC-DL was cheap and popular.

[Movieman]

IIRC, back in the days of Asus PC-DL & NCCH-DL (xeon boards), bios mods were requested by a member at 2cpu.com (HFU I think), who was/knew a techie at one of the main Asus distributor in the US. I guess they have the clout or the sales volume to make such requests via official support.

These bios mods were not overclocker-friendly, but the basic voltage, multiplier and FSB options were there, although not extreme. Memory straps were achieved via BSEL pin-mods, so it was a combo of hardware and bios tweaks. Memory latencies are done using software in windows. Hardware mods ensures no overclocking can be performed in a server operating environment, just by enthuthiasts. But the bios mods didn't happen overnight, it took quite some time.

Another good enthuthiast board was DH-800 (xeon) from Iwill (now defunct). Iwill also released DK8N which allows Opteron overclocking. Both boards were a hit back then, but Asus PC-DL was cheap and popular.

Your close but the Asus PC-DL was excellent because for $200.00 new you could buy the board, scrounge up apair of 1600/512/400 D1,xeons pin mod the socket( u shaped wire stuck into 2 sockets and bingo: 3200/512/800 ifI remember right.
Also XS's DDTUNG was involved in figuring out the volt mods for them.
Hell, he ran those on DC work and had them to such a fine pitch he was out doing my 3year newer Irwindale dualie..
OT but back in 2004 Isold almost 100 of those 1600 D1's on ebay for $70.00/each before I knew how much they were worth!
They were going for double what I was selling them for.

[Ket]

Tbh....it may seem ignored.....but i assure you it's not.

I can also assure you I am probably in hot water for not ignoring it myself but tbh it's the only way i can currently give anything on intel a run for the money so i figure it's justified.

Well, if AMD don't want to step up to the plate and increase their competitiveness, what can you do apart from choose the other team that gives you what you want?

On a seperate note, why do so many people want to see Asus make the mobo/BIOS? Gigabyte would be a much better option.

[Movieman]

Well, if AMD don't want to step up to the plate and increase their competitiveness, what can you do apart from choose the other team that gives you what you want?

On a seperate note, why do so many people want to see Asus make the mobo/BIOS? Gigabyte would be a much better option.

Yes,Gigabyte does make a excellent board but Asus has the board out right now that will work with the right bios and from what I've seen so far working with it the last month it is an excellent board..
Check out the features.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-643-_-Product

[BeepBeep2]

That board could potentially support 4-way crossfire, Quad Channel DDR3 and 24 overclocked cores if a desktop board *whistles* /facepalm

[Ket]

Ah, that explains it then

ED - beepbeep, wheres those results you were gonna do?

[MrMojoZ]

Well, if AMD don't want to step up to the plate and increase their competitiveness, what can you do apart from choose the other team that gives you what you want?

I'd be more worried about them if they were trying to compete in a market that would gain them nothing. Besides, it isn't like Intel invented and markets the SR-2.

[Ket]

They would be gaining quite a lot I would imagine. How many more Xeons do you think intel have shifted since the SR-2 came out? I'm going to guess a extra 20%.

[BeepBeep2]

Ah, that explains it then

ED - beepbeep, wheres those results you were gonna do?

Results?

Sorry, I'm a very confused kid at this time of my life.

EDIT:

The RAM, or 4850/5770?

[Movieman]

That board could potentially support 4-way crossfire, Quad Channel DDR3 and 24 overclocked cores if a desktop board *whistles* /facepalm

Realistically just 2 vid cards,read the specs

They would be gaining quite a lot I would imagine. How many more Xeons do you think intel have shifted since the SR-2 came out? I'm going to guess a extra 20%.

No,nowhere near there..Not even a 1/2 of one percent.
Stop and think of how many xeons Intel sells..
20%..
If Intel had sold an extra 20% xeons because of the SR2 board EVGA would have to build another plant to produce the boards..
Just a guess but I'd think that if EVGA hits 10,000 board sales they will be thrilled, thats 20,000 cpu's..
Think on the millions Intel sells yearly..

[Ket]

Results?

Sorry, I'm a very confused kid at this time of my life.

EDIT:

The RAM, or 4850/5770?

Both If you think your confused now.. give it another few years. I had a friend yelling at me via text just because she disapproves of me visiting a strip club for a hour or two on my birthday lol.

[Ket]

Realistically just 2 vid cards,read the specs

No,nowhere near there..Not even a 1/2 of one percent.
Stop and think of how many xeons Intel sells..
20%..
If Intel had sold an extra 20% xeons because of the SR2 board EVGA would have to build another plant to produce the boards..
Just a guess but I'd think that if EVGA hits 10,000 board sales they will be thrilled, thats 20,000 cpu's..
Think on the millions Intel sells yearly..

I was guessing Xeon sales were fairly low in comparison to mainstream parts, after all, only big business has interest in the Xeons really. With the SR-2 coming in Xeons suddenly become desirable to medium businesses who need a server or two, folders, and even to some general consumers who have the knowledge. The SR-2 makes a Xeon almost look as consumer orientated as a Core2 or i5/7.

[aythrea]

Well, if AMD don't want to step up to the plate and increase their competitiveness, what can you do apart from choose the other team that gives you what you want? ...snip.

Well... there are other processor platforms like Cyrix, powerpc, and heaven forbid Intel. :P Because, you know those first 2 are still hanging around, somehow. I just find it crazy that Intel has their fingers so deep into the PC, Server, AND Mac market, that the idea of marketing a dual proc motherboard with the capabilities that the enthusiasts are asking for seems like a no-brainer.

Does anyone know what kind of sales the SR2 is seeing, since it's continually mentioned here?

[snoro]

They would be gaining quite a lot I would imagine. How many more Xeons do you think intel have shifted since the SR-2 came out? I'm going to guess a extra 20%.

ROFLCOPTER!!!!!

There is maybe only about a thousand of sr-2 already sold and you know xeon are for server ???? Big company buy those cpu in rack of thousand. Seriously sr-2 might have helped the sale of xeon cpu of about 0.01% and i quite optimistic right now.Seriously atleast please read everything people say in the thread you post in before you say anything because JF-Amd gave us the real statistic of xeon used for desktop usage( which is around 2.5% of the sales of xeon).

The only thing we are asking JF-Amd is that if he could help us contact some bios developping team to have atleast a contact at supermicro/tyan/asus... so then we can work it out for some beta bios.