Underrated muscle

[8bit]

There are some rides that were well respected, popular, or both, back in the day. The special cars Hurst and Oldsmobile collaborated on qualify, what others can you think of?



Hurst/Olds



Turbo Bird

[Irocing]

The King of Sleeper
And muscle car killer

67 Chevy Nova 350hp.

Been there, Did that.
Wish I still had it.

Later

[zanzabar]

i always thought that the gremlin X was underrated sure its a gremlin but it had a V8 that needed some air going to it and it was tiny and a gremlin so u would not expect it

[Kai Robinson]

I was always sure it was one of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_AMX

[jaguarking11]

Not V8 nor a typical hotrod at the time.

However a sleeper in its own right. 205horse 248lb of tourque at peak, in the mid 1980's when we had v8's making less power and torque 2x -3x the displacement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_SVO

Nice machine in my book. Looks can also be deceiving when judjing one of these, seen them with over 500horse on pump gasoline.

These were cool too. Not your grandfathers taurus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Taurus_SHO

First through 3rd gen are awesome. 4th gen needs some helping in price range as it sits in the premium price range as far as im concerned.

In any case, as clarkson said Ford is know to bring supercars at supermarket prices.

[zanzabar]

the new sho is an all wheel drive eco boost monster thats why it costs so much

[SewerSide]

[BeepBeep2]

One word. Subaru.

[slaveondope]

I loved my second gen. SHO with the Yamaha V6, 5 speed, police suspension package, fog lights, sun roof, jbl sound system, leather very nice for a '94 model

[Sparky]

I'm sorry, anything less than a V8 and RWD is not muscle. Performance, yes, but muscle is sheer V8 RWD power

[Sn0wm@n]

that mustant SVO does sound nice

[demonkevy666]

I'm sorry, anything less than a V8 and RWD is not muscle. Performance, yes, but muscle is sheer V8 RWD power

RAWR Of the V8 drowns out FART can civic any day

[Dave_Sz]

RAWR Of the V8 drowns out FART can civic any day

Too bad it doesn't drown out stupidity and ignorance.

[demonkevy666]

ugh I just seen a nice subaru imprezza with a HUGE Fart can I wanted to throw a brick threw it's back window >_>

[Sparky]

RAWR Of the V8 drowns out FART can civic any day

I see a lot of those around. Thankfully, not near as many as I did when I was in college, bunch of idiots with crappy old civics and accords with those things strapped to their tailpipe (and the obligatory overly huge and gaudy wing bolted to the trunk lid) flooring it in traffic thinking they were some fast nascar racer or something

[bullet2urbrain]

ugh I just seen a nice subaru imprezza with a HUGE Fart can I wanted to throw a brick threw it's back window >_>

I used to drive an impreza around cleveland with a 3" exhaust, going to a 4.78" tip... now why would you throw a brick... my car runs 12s in the quarter mile.. roughly equiv to a non Z06 corvette... but you're right, the stupid loud gas guzzling V8's are definitely better choices..

lol

[dengyong]

I used to drive an impreza around cleveland with a 3" exhaust, going to a 4.78" tip... now why would you throw a brick... my car runs 12s in the quarter mile.. roughly equiv to a non Z06 corvette... but you're right, the stupid loud gas guzzling V8's are definitely better choices..

lol

Was the 4.78" tip just to make it louder ? I'm sure you'll agree that the huge outlet didn't increase performance even the tiniest amount.

I think the old school guys just think it's funny to spend money on novelty items, rather than go fast parts.

I like anything with a turbo.

[zanzabar]

Was the 4.78" tip just to make it louder ? I'm sure you'll agree that the huge outlet didn't increase performance even the tiniest amount.

I think the old school guys just think it's funny to spend money on novelty items, rather than go fast parts.

I like anything with a turbo.

the tip wont do anything unless its right off the muffler, and then i dont think that it would matter much, especially on a turbo.

i thought of another one.

how about the 240sx (i know not classic but its like 20 years old now), it is just as fast as the NA 3000z, handles better than the z, gets better mpg and u can slap a turbo in it and it will go faster than the z or u can even put nice high compression heads on it and it will run a good 200+HP while having good mileage as its got the nice 2.4L. its the same platform as the silvia in japan (so lots of parts if u want them) but it never got more than being a secretaries car here and the tuners did not kill them all like the other tuner type cars in the US of the late 80's to mid 90's

[Movieman]

My 2750lb 1962 Ford Falcon Ranchero..
289ci Ford,C6 Auto, Accel Ignition,Hooker Headers, FIRST Edelbrock ford alum high rise intake ( F-4B) with a little 1850 Holley(600cfm)
9" ford rear with 4:30 to1..
Jet black, nice and quiet looking.
Would run 13.9's thru the mufflers and did I mention that this was back in 1969?
I remember "walking" a 69 396/375HP Camaro from 30-130 with that little Ford.
Should have seen the guys face!
Next "toy" was much faster but you knew it,not a sleeper at all.

[dengyong]

the tip wont do anything unless its right off the muffler, and then i dont think that it would matter much, especially on a turbo.

Question was rhetorical... I've built a few cars and custom exhausts, everything from N/A v8s to turbo charged rotaries.

[PaganII]

Australian Ford Falcon GT (Boss 315) with 5.4L 4 valve all aluminum V8, 422HP

http://wot.motortrend.com/6663081/au...v-8/index.html

I had a few of those old 60's American Falcons. Had a 61 Ranchero but most fun was the 64 convertible with a 260V8. All the others were I6-170, 200.

[afireinside]

ugh I just seen a nice subaru imprezza with a HUGE Fart can I wanted to throw a brick threw it's back window >_>

No wonder import owners hate domestic drivers...

[Judaeus Apella]

You know the first time I took the family Xterra out off road in the snow, I couldn't believe the power coming out of that little V6. It just leaps forward and snow piles 4 feet high were just exploding off the front of it like it was nothing at all. And you have to be careful when starting forward from a complete stop while driving on pavement, it will leap forward and punch you into the seat. I really like that thing... I just hate the MPG and the cramped leg room in the drivers seat. Compared to other SUV's the MPG is actually quite poor, but I love the power!

[demonkevy666]

you know this has brought me thought now superchargers or turbo/'s ?

what do you think is better ?

[[XC] Lead Head]

The answer is both.

It depends on what you want. If you want instant boost at the expense of a loss in efficiency then a supercharger is what you want.

If you want a more efficient setup but don't care about turbo-lag, then a turbo setup is what you want.