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    MSI moving to UEFI with Sandy Bridge?

    According to the MSI mole, the first new UEFI products will be based on Intel's Sandy Bridge chipset, spanning the whole field from entry-level boards to high-end kit. The company says that it expects the boards to be introduced towards the end of this year, and into early 2011. "We won’t consider UEFI as an expensive premium feature," said the spokesperson, "but as a must-have for everyone!"
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    Now my PC won't feel like it's 30 years old each time I boot it.

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    It may still. Most EFI implementations retain the lovely, antique BIOS look. Lazy devs.
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    dont all EFI implementations have missing bios functions and cant u break the firmware by giving it some bad settings that are unrecoverable or is that all worked out now
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    Faster boot times, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Faster boot times, please.
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    my notebook (with UEFI) boots 2 times faster than my PC because of all these bootroms necessary on a BIOS system
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    this is nice to hear from MSI. and for those that didn't know what UEFI was when looking at this thread (like myself), here's a good explanation of it in the FAQ:

    http://www.uefi.org/about/
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    BIOS - the last thing in pc that was developed only by engineers and programists. now i'm seeng all this stupid layouts that we will must break through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prznar1 View Post
    BIOS - the last thing in pc that was developed only by engineers and programists. now i'm seeng all this stupid layouts that we will must break through.
    Agreed. I don't like it either and I think it's a good reason to ignore future MSI boards.

    A different look for UEFI:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensi...ware_Interface

    Criticism

    EFI has been criticized for bringing more complexity to the system, without bringing significant advantages[1] and disabling fully open-source BIOS replacements like OpenBIOS and Coreboot.[21] It does not solve any of BIOS's long standing problems of requiring two different drivers - one for the BIOS and one for the operating System - for most hardware.[22] It is not clear why it is beneficial to have two completely different operating systems running concurrently and doing similar things, or why a new operating system has to be created from scratch.[22]

    The Free Software Foundation has criticized Intel for pretending to open up their platform, and for preventing interoperability: "It won't run, and doesn't bring us any closer to a BIOS that does run. It is just a distraction."[7]

    Note however that TianoCore or GNUFI can be ported as a payload of coreboot, to make a fully-free firmware based on EFI.
    Unless it brings HUGE benefits I don't want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    QFT

    my notebook (with UEFI) boots 2 times faster than my PC because of all these bootroms necessary on a BIOS system
    is that 10 seconds really hurting you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelixPC View Post
    is that 10 seconds really hurting you?
    If my PC booted 10 seconds quicker it would mean that this reply would have cost me 0 seconds of my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelixPC View Post
    is that 10 seconds really hurting you?
    10 seconds is a long time when comparing the boot times of OSs, so why does it not matter about POST?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelixPC View Post
    is that 10 seconds really hurting you?
    Enable Raid and those 10 secs turn into a eternity, unfortunately I doubt UEFI will fix the boot times with Raid.

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    Oh come on guys faster boot times, all you need is an as Asrock mobo. lol anyone remember that marketing scheme?
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    It was a pain in the @ss, but I finally figured out how to install Windows 7 x64 in UEFI/GPT mode on my Intel DP55KG. Works great, but its still the same old legacy BIOS interface and some of the settings dont even work anymore in UEFI/GPT mode. Oh well...at least the OCD in me is satisfied heh =P

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    Unless I have a different monitor plugged in, I have no idea how long it takes to POST as it's done by the time my CRT is up and running, so I can't see this making a life-changing difference to me. Leave me with the BIOS I know and love.
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    Old fashioned bios is annoying, my damn UD6 takes FOREVER to post get a move on so the SSD can take over. My powerpc macs with open firmware and big old 500GB disc drives boots faster than my core i7 system can fully post, Also the thing has an actual UI in its firmware too. UEFI from what I've seen takes from both old Bios and Open firmware and *&%^ out the worse from both, the only reason it boots faster is its not been laden with half the junk its gonna get eventually. I guess good on MSI for trying, perhaps they will actually put some effort into it and make UEFI work for overclockers. If not I'm sticking with old fashioned bios, i didnt get an SSD for boot times alone.

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    The ability to boot to volumes that are larger than 2TB will be nice in the coming years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darakian View Post
    The ability to boot to volumes that are larger than 2TB will be nice in the coming years
    I've been waiting for this since I found out that windows couldn't boot of my raid array using GPT.

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    Is it 2002 again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaivan View Post
    I've been waiting for this since I found out that windows couldn't boot of my raid array using GPT.
    why did u not make a raid partition then it would boot something smaller than 2TB and u have the rest for storage.

    as long as we have raid partitions its not really a problem IMO as almost everything has a raid controller now
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    I'm glad they are replacing BIOS. There are plenty of good reasons why UEFI is better then BIOS, especially for users of multiple OSes, but this isn't one of them:
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    The ability to boot to volumes that are larger than 2TB will be nice in the coming years
    This is a windows problem not a BIOS problem. Linux has had the ability to boot GPT partitions on BIOS systems for a while now. They should have fixed it with Windows 7, but didn't for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solus Corvus View Post
    I'm glad they are replacing BIOS. There are plenty of good reasons why UEFI is better then BIOS, especially for users of multiple OSes, but this isn't one of them:

    This is a windows problem not a BIOS problem. Linux has had the ability to boot GPT partitions on BIOS systems for a while now. They should have fixed it with Windows 7, but didn't for some reason.
    Hopefully, they will try to implement it in a Service Pack like they did with XP's 48 bit LBA.
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    who cares about uefi???
    if it ads anything useful, sure, great! but if it doesnt... then who cares?

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