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    Killer 2100 adds FPS?

    http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?o...1491&Itemid=51

    I'm not sure how this works. Assuming they followed standard benchmarking practice by running the same time demo, etc, etc, same conditions, is a 5-10 FPS boost really possible?

    Since it's online, there's no way they can guarantee the same experience, but still, huge gains either mean:

    a) bad practice

    b) faking

    c) something really is up,

    Whereas statistically insignificant gains can be chalked up to error.
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    are you honestly that surprised?
    the whole point of the card is to add FPS by not having the CPU handle networking.
    is 10FPS is possible, undoubtedly, but 5FPS i would not be surprised.
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    Depends on how pointlessly overpowered your CPU is. It could potentially give you better performance, since it takes some load off the CPU. Then again, so would any other discrete NIC.
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    10KB/sec going through the network card (LOTRO) can't tax the CPU enough to reduce the FPS by 5-10.
    This 'review' is a waste of time.
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    Audio processing on the cpu takes up on a quad what maybe 5% of resources and gains from removing it are what 5fps on a good day.
    The network activity ~1%?

    Im speculating here fill me in

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    Quote Originally Posted by slaveondope View Post
    Audio processing on the cpu takes up on a quad what maybe 5% of resources and gains from removing it are what 5fps on a good day.
    The network activity ~1%?

    Im speculating here fill me in
    Depends on the network activity.
    Downloading @ 100Mbit speed for me is around 0-2% of CPU used. And most of it is coming from the disk activity.
    So for 1Mbit or less you will not be able to notice it at all.
    In fact, most integrated NICs do most (if not all, depends on the way you setup them) of network processing on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    10KB/sec going through the network card (LOTRO) can't tax the CPU enough to reduce the FPS by 5-10.
    This 'review' is a waste of time.
    QFT. There is no way in the world this 'review' is valid.

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    I wonder if Bigfoot Networks is paying the reviewer? Sounds like bull to me...

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    lol 8fps avarage for lotr... in his dreams.

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    Maybe with a singlecore rig but with quads becoming mainstream this is unnecessary

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    So hes trying to prove CPU network overhead in a game using a single GTS 250 at 1920x1200? What a douche bag. A 30 fps difference in max frames in L4D2. lawl

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    Sounds more like the difference of running Disributed Computing while gaming versus having it snoozed/off entirely while gaming; if you run both at the same time you'll be losing performance, but the difference is typically a joke (except in a few games; GTA IV can't run smoothly at the same time as BOINC/WCG can). Then there's also the question of whether an Intel NIC can give the same "boost" as that Bigfoot thing... if a $30 Intel card can, then they'll lose sales if the performance gains actually exist. And how many times did this moron run the test? If you're testing for one difference, common practice is to benchmark it 3-5 times, preferably off of a clean install.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ownage View Post
    Probably not noticeable on overclocked pimprigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobsama View Post
    Sounds more like the difference of running Disributed Computing while gaming versus having it snoozed/off entirely while gaming; if you run both at the same time you'll be losing performance, but the difference is typically a joke (except in a few games; GTA IV can't run smoothly at the same time as BOINC/WCG can). Then there's also the question of whether an Intel NIC can give the same "boost" as that Bigfoot thing... if a $30 Intel card can, then they'll lose sales if the performance gains actually exist. And how many times did this moron run the test? If you're testing for one difference, common practice is to benchmark it 3-5 times, preferably off of a clean install.
    from what i hear (though don't have evidence to support) is that the intel nic actually adds more fps and has better latency than the bigfoot solution. this is probably because the intel card isn't trying to "fake out" other gamers online by sending false latency info. the reason bigfoot is still in business is because the market their product to gamers, and gamers believe the high price means it has extra special spooky-voodoo. just like asus' "republic of gamers" mobo line...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 570091D View Post
    gamers believe the high price means it has extra special spooky-voodoo. just like asus' "republic of gamers" mobo line...
    ?? it doesnt?? and i was buying mac products all this time thinkings that they were magic becuase all the money spent on it.. (steve jobs says his products are magical

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    LOL @Killer2100

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam2k View Post
    LOL @Killer2100
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalop1g View Post
    Dude it's not 4chan here, you're on xtremesystems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalop1g View Post
    Dude it's not 4chan here, you're on xtremesystems.

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    The performance gains shown in that review are simply too good to be true. What I don't understand is why the killer NIC marketing team keep emphasizing FPS gain instead of smoother network traffic, lower ping etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamHughe View Post
    The performance gains shown in that review are simply too good to be true. What I don't understand is why the killer NIC marketing team keep emphasizing FPS gain instead of smoother network traffic, lower ping etc.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripken204 View Post
    are you honestly that surprised?
    the whole point of the card is to add FPS by not having the CPU handle networking.
    is 10FPS is possible, undoubtedly, but 5FPS i would not be surprised.
    Yes, considering the resolution is GPU-limited. If switching different CPU models yields less differences (% difference in CPU power is large), how can swapping in a NIC help more?
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    How many MP games are multithreaded? Very few. The point is you have a game which is maxxing out your CPU, to take anything from the CPU usage is to reduce FPS. 5-10FPS is more than possible but not at crysis max 1900 res+.

    Where the marketing fails is if you have a $200 NIC, why not spend that $200 on a better video card which will get you more than 10FPS.

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