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    Quad Phenoms tip up in Acer, Dell notebooks

    Dirt cheap Phenom N930 coming soon

    Dell is listing an interesting Inspiron laptop packed with AMD's latest processors and 8-series chipsets. Oddly enough, Dell claims the Inspiron M501R will be available with quad-core Phenom processors, but there are no exact specs. You can check it out here.

    However, Acer has revealed a bit more. Its 15.6-inch Aspire 5553 packs AMD's Phenom II X4 N930 clocked at 2GHz. It has 4096MB of memory, 640GB of storage and ATI's DirectX 11 capable Radeon HD 5650 discrete graphics for good measure.

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    Oh wow; that Aspire 5553 looks fantastic. I'm curious as to what price will be; $2000 would be way too much, $1000 would kick Intel's rear end.

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    they to bring the tri core into laptops i love mine. it has just a little more consumption than a dual but u can use 3 cores for normal use and not just when encoding video or crunching.

    also any word on turbo or core parking, those would make sense on that platform
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    If AMD could implement ACC without restart, I think this feature definitely kick Intel's rear end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobsama View Post
    Oh wow; that Aspire 5553 looks fantastic. I'm curious as to what price will be; $2000 would be way too much, $1000 would kick Intel's rear end.
    Er, I got an Asus with a i7 Q720, 4 gigs of DDR3 and 5730 for under $1000 retail priced. I imagine the new laptops will cost even less and be sweet price/performance systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojoZ View Post
    Er, I got an Asus with a i7 Q720, 4 gigs of DDR3 and 5730 for under $1000 retail priced. I imagine the new laptops will cost even less and be sweet price/performance systems.
    I stand corrected. Is it too much to ask for a quad-core laptop with a decent graphics card for $600?

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    I hope lenovo adopts AMD for its higher end W series, even X and T series. I'd love to get my hands on an x201 w/ a 2.4ghz quad
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    An article with some more models can be found over at [S|A].

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    who buys a quadcore laptop and why?
    do they even use the battery? ever?

    in the end these are just portable desktops, right?
    quadcore cpu and the best they can do graphics wise is 5650? meh... what a horrible balance...

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    the public is stupid they dont care about getting a proper system even if they would use it for games if they could play games they dont want to buy something targeted to gamers since it makes it expensive and seam like its for kids. so people just market the cpu and throw whever in it so it can do basic tasks. the mobile 5650 is not all that much better than the 4200 igp with sideport.

    that said i would take a quad core phenom if it had turbo that way it can up clock when u do something, sure a tri core would be better and i would say ideal since i like my 720 better than a quad or a dual (ive had 1-4 cores).

    the only reason i see to get a quad before the phenom mobile was to get proper turbo for 2 cores on the i7 mobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    who buys a quadcore laptop and why?
    do they even use the battery? ever?

    in the end these are just portable desktops, right?
    quadcore cpu and the best they can do graphics wise is 5650? meh... what a horrible balance...
    Nope, they don't use the battery. I have a friend who does graphics work on her laptop (light 3d modeling and such). It's better than what was provided to her at her job for the task, however the battery time is atrocious (2-3 hours idle). So she just uses her laptop at home and at work. Uses the desktop they provided her for light tasks such as email. Rarely is it ever worth it to turn the thing on while not being plugged in.

    At the same time, she proposed that she didn't have to spend more money on a desktop for casual and light 3d gaming (WoW, Half-Life 2, etc) and she can take that around with her to vacation or whatever she wants to do. As long as there is an outlet, she can do work + decent gaming + light stuff. For what she paid for it, I actually ended up proving her right trying to disprove her buy about 100$ (Damn monitor prices!). I'm sure she'd be happy to upgrade if her laptop died or she needed a beefier machine to a quad core + a 5650 as opposed to a dual core with 2 3850/70s (Can't remember 100% and it's too early to call her up)

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    The screens on laptops are atrocious though I'd rather pay the extra 100 for the desktop monitor, it's still a step up from the laptop screen.

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    Jak, 15.6 inch screen. That means 1366x768 resolution. You really have to be careful with laptop screens these days.
    Quadcore costs more, so the skimp on the screen.
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    N930 has clock speed of 2GHz, and it doesn't have 6MB L3 cache. It looks more like an Athlon II X4 @ 2GHz to me

    I think mobile i5 can easily beat this in majority of applications

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    who buys a quadcore laptop and why?
    do they even use the battery? ever?
    I do, so I can do 3d rendering and compile programs. Lower speced laptops would just make me wish I was at my desktop. I have no need of a system with long battery life with how I use my computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaivan View Post
    The screens on laptops are atrocious though I'd rather pay the extra 100 for the desktop monitor, it's still a step up from the laptop screen.
    Yes, as would I. However, different strokes for different folks. She had everything she wanted, at the price point she wanted. Having a crappier monitor on the actual laptop (She can still plug one into it if she wishes), was better than trying to haul even a smaller pc around + monitor + components. She had everything she wanted at the price point she wanted, and I have to give that to her, she didn't overpay for the laptop, it did everything she wanted within reason (work, play, home, mobility) within the price point that she set out.

    I'm sure most of us here in her situation would take a dual core laptop (T7 series) + 2 3850 mobile gpus (even if the drivers need some tweaking and such) over a (working from memory here) Pentium D, 1-2GB ram, low end graphics chip (enough to render a screen + CAD and other light 3d accelerated apps at reasonable pace, for the sake of argument lets say Nvidia 7 or 8 midrange chips/Ati 2k-3k series midrange chips).

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    I do, so I can do 3d rendering and compile programs. Lower speced laptops would just make me wish I was at my desktop. I have no need of a system with long battery life with how I use my computers.
    ^ Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobsama View Post
    Oh wow; that Aspire 5553 looks fantastic. I'm curious as to what price will be; $2000 would be way too much, $1000 would kick Intel's rear end.
    It's listed for €765 in Germany, but it's removed now.
    With German taxes removed and converted to USD it's $818, no too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ownage View Post
    Jak, 15.6 inch screen. That means 1366x768 resolution. You really have to be careful with laptop screens these days.
    Quadcore costs more, so the skimp on the screen.
    Yeah I'd pick dual core and a decent resolution any day.
    I hate the 768 height so much, and you have to look hard and pay a premium to get something better on a 15.6".

    That's the only thing I like about Apple lately, they stayed at 16:10. Otherwise I couldn't care less.

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    laptop cpus fit between 25 and 45W, the 45W chips are for desktop replacements, but any 25W cpu is going to drain the battery at around the same pace. at work we have 2.8ghz duel cores rated for 35W, and i get 5 hours out of a 9 cell battery doing light workloads.

    looking at the amd future chip wiki page, they have a whole slew of cpus coming for almost any speed you can imagine. a low speed quad might feel slow in windows (being how it rarely uses more than one core) but depending on the application, you might really like it. but i think a tri core is whats best, almost the same speed as the duel, but with an extra core and not much extra power consumption

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    I'm interested to see how these Mobile Althon II x4, erm PH2 do. Compared to mobile i7 quads also at 45 tdp.

    Now if they redid prupos core with tweaks tuban had
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    Quote Originally Posted by [xc] synthetickiller View Post
    i hope lenovo adopts amd for its higher end w series, even x and t series. I'd love to get my hands on an x201 w/ a 2.4ghz quad :d
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    Ooooo can't wait to see reviews of Phenom II mobile

    AMD's track record with mobile CPU's doesn't set my expectations high for this platform. My step-brothers Turion II and mates Athlon X2 laptops both run real freakin' hot, the Athlon X2 laptop hitting 100c doing simple tasks like extracting a zip!

    Probably safe to say these new Phenom II X3/X4 will offer great bang for buck performance like current Athlon II/Turion II but awful battery life and temps

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