PPD Predictor Thread (prelim)

[Vapor]

Looking to set up a thread here with a really easy way for a new or old cruncher to come in and figure out what they can expect from their machine. But I need some quick blurbs of data from all of you so I can make it more comprehensive!


My thoughts: with all the different CPUs and OSs and BOINC versions we run, it can be kind of confusing to predict what to expect from a machine. I want to simplify it....that way it'll be easier for people to spot if there's a problem, decide what components to buy for a crunching machine, predict the value of a machine to potentially add, etc. Plus, it's just fun to be able to know what your machine will do and see how close you can get to its potential...it's like an efficiency benchmark

Here's how I want to do it: looking for a quick copy and paste from people's "Device Statistics" page on the WCG site. With it, please post your OS, your CPUs and MHz (and whether or not HT is on, if applicable), and BOINC version. Ideally, the data would be from dedicated machines so the numbers are pure....but if you say your system is also your daily-use system, I can take that into account

For example, this is my HTPC's data blurb from the Device Statistics page:
0:043:07:56:30 226,691

It's an i5 750 at 3500MHz running Win7 x64 and BOINC 6.10.43.

With this info, I can see I'm doing 20926 PPD at 3500MHz. That works out to 6PPD per MHz.

With that information, the Lynnfield (no HT) entry in the database would be:
"Lynnfield (no HT) | Win7 x64 | BOINC 6.10.43 : 6 PPD per MHz"

And with that (and hopefully with a list of other CPUs from all of you!), anybody can quickly assess what they should get from their CPU, could get from a future CPU, etc.

I will maintain the thread in this section and all I need are the blurbs from your crunchers....if you want to do the math yourself and save me a few seconds, go for it, just do it right!

Hopefully this catches on

EDIT: if you've been changing clockspeeds...the blurbs from the past few days should be enough (5 days is probably all that's needed for a decent average)


Prelim Database:
Lynnfield (no HT) | Win7 x64 | BOINC 6.10.43 : 6 PPD per MHz
Kentsfield | WinXP x86 | unknown : 4.5 PPD per MHz

[Vapor]

[OldChap]

0:114:06:20:22 434,042
daily use q6600 G0 @3.5 on xp32....These numbers generated from the last 30 days realtime and daily use for me is surfing for around 8 hours and a gtx 260 running grid

0:216:09:45:20 509,470
24/7 dual opty2356 @2.3 on xp32 again from 30 days realtime and a 9800gtx running grid

0:104:16:16:40 429,553
24/7 x3350 @3.84 on vista64 30days realtime and a 9800gx2 running grid/folding

0:94:3:39:15 490,273
24/7 qx9650 @4.0 on vista 64 30 days realtime and 2* 9800gx2's running grid/folding

as you can see running graphics on grid or folding takes away cpu cycles

EDIT this period includes a power cut day and all are on boinc 6.10.18

[Vapor]

Awesome! Got 4.34 PPD per MHz...considering mild usage, we'll call it 4.5 PPD per MHz for now

Mini database started

[skinnee]

I've got a couple others I can't access presently to check details, but here are 3.

E5420 - 4 cores/threads @ 2.27GHz | Win7 x64 | BOINC 6.6.20 | 3:256:10:09:39 4,536,224 7,373
E5520 - 4 cores/8 threads @ 2.27GHz | Server 2008 R2 | BOINC 6.6.20 | 1:308:01:56:56 1,751,060 2,851
2x E5110 - 4 cores/threads @ 1.60GHz | Server 2003 x86 | BOINC unknown | 5:333:05:01:31 3,926,854 7,208

[Vapor]

Awesome! We have an increasingly useful database forming

[Bobsama]

Wolfdale... 4000MHz
0:016:17:52:53 76,272 145

That's 1.14 ppd per MHz per core... I think. Remember to divide run-time by the number of cores. For example, while my Wolfdale has crunched for about 16.75 days, it's only been up for 8.375 days, in which time it produced 76.3k WCG points. That brings it out to 9107.1 WCG PPD or 2.277 points per MHz... I think. :P

[ChaosMinionX]

1:007:19:07:56 1,647,992 2,533

however its been the same machine but different chips... currently its an i7 920 @ 4000mhz HT ON

Last points generated was 28,215... so that makes it 7.05PPD/mhz

BOINC 6.10.18 x64 on Win7 64bit

[snoro]

core i5 750 4core @ 4100mhz/boinc 6.10.45/win 7 64bit/0:078:11:26:56/486 404/838
amd turion 64 x2 2 core @ 1900mhz/boinc 6.10.45/win vista 64 bit/0:035:14:01:19/63 136/122
intel core2duo e5200 2 core @2000mhz/boinc 6.10.45/win 7 64 bit/0:007:15:18:28/22 241/36
pentium d dual core 2 core @2800mhz/boinc 6.10.45/win 7 64bit/0:014:02:01:20/23 853/50

there you go vapor

[ggdh]

Phenom II X3 720be@x4 2800MHz@3600Mhz

0:053:07:08:59 197,914
53.29 days / 4 cores = 13.32 days running time

197914 points / 13.32 days = 14858.4 WCG PPD
14858.4 PPD / 3600MHz = 4.13 PPD/MHz

Phenom II x4 @ 3600MHz = 4.13 PPD/MHz

BOINC Manager 6.10.43 x64
Win7x64

[Vapor]

Catching up with all the submissions! Made it a chart....let me know what you think

[nn_step]

actually to get a true reflection on expected performance, you'll actually have to measure similar/same systems at different clocks to properly prepare an accurate formula for predicting point generation. Also the effects of operating system choice and dedication to work also have a significant impact on the points.

[Biker]

Dedicated Machine list:

All 920's have HT on...

1: i7 920 @ 3.8ghz Win XP x64 Boinc 6.10.43 64 bit 0:101:08:58:42 402,015

2: i7 920 @ 3.8ghz Win XP x64 Boinc 6.10.43 64 bit 0:097:12:31:54 389,044

3: i7 920 @ 3.8ghz Win XP x64 Boinc 6.10.43 64 bit 0:049:17:38:12 194,922

4: QX9650 @ 4.0ghz Win XP x64 Boinc 6.10.43 64 bit 0:071:05:43:07 366,752

5: Q9650 @ 4.05ghz Win XP x64 Boinc 6.10.43 64 bit 0:070:16:20:51 354,876

6: Q6600 @ 2.4ghz Win XP x64 Boinc 6.10.43 64 bit 0:053:09:58:13 161,400

Daily use machine:

I7 920 @ 3.8ghz Win XP x32 Boinc 6.10.43 32 bit 0:152:04:40:45 598,787

[Movieman]

SR2 rig..Tough to show a single day but at 4152MHz with X5680's it does average 105,000PPD
X5670's on the SMDA3 showing app 75,000PPD but thats climbing,just been on 3 days.

[Vapor]

Looks like 25.5 PPD per MHz from a Dual Westmere....sheesh. If I put that on the graph, it messes everything up

[Vapor]

Alright, added Dave's Dual Westmere systems and make the whole chart larger (and it still goes WAYYYY off the chart if I let it)....

[Vapor]

Alright, might be able to take this out of 'beta' the next day or so...

Looking for more AMD data (Kuma/Rana, Deneb X3, Deneb X4, Thuban, etc), Gulftown, Clarkdale, more multi-CPU data, and Sossaman data. I think we've got enough here on Bloomfield/Lynnfield/Kentsfield/Yorkfield--I'll probably be trimming the current graph down to simplify things a bit too

[Red Maw]

E6600 @ 2.4Ghz |0:024:17:04:17|73,745| BOINC 6.10.43 |win7 x64 - it's been crunching 24/7 untouched except when I check on it

[jcool]

Okay, I'll try..

X5680 (12 Threads) @ 4,5Gghz; Win7 x64; warning, changes CPUs a lot - also used for gaming etc; 3:005:10:10:26 4,806,383 7,677
Quad Opteron 8347HE (16 Threads) @ 2Ghz, Win Server 2k8 x64; 9:123:06:01:54 6,444,458 9,779
i7 920 (8 Threads) @ 3,8Ghz; Win7 x64; 1:225:10:03:13 1,972,080 3,773
Dual Gainestown X5570 (16 Threads)@2,93Ghz; Win Server 2k8 x64; 10:081:05:39:22 11,260,471 17,392
Dual X5650 (24 Threads) @ 2,9Ghz; Win7 x64; 4:219:09:33:35 5,653,308 9,502
Dual X5450 (8 Threads) @ 3,6Ghz; WinXP x64; 3:273:00:01:42 6,422,064 9,326 <-- this machine has over 15 years of runtime on it, just had to reinstall because BOINC was corrupted somehow
Dual Sossaman (4 Threads) @ 2Ghz; some sort of Unix 32Bit (no idea what, loaned out to a friend as a 24/7 fileserver); 1:306:22:44:00 1,336,191 2,155

Is that what you need?

[Vapor]

Whoa! Lotsa juicy info there....great stuff jcool I'll get to adding it soon!

(just updated the graph in post 2 with Conroe, thanks Red Maw!)

EDIT: for the X5680 system....do you think you could post the data from the past 5-7 days? if the overall results have been tainted by other CPUs, then just the recent results are probably more accurate

[jcool]

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Guess I can't
Checked a few days ago though, the machine is averaging around 60k/d.

[Vapor]

Ah well, you can get it in an hour if you're still around...no hurry

Updated again....we now have three systems that have the bar going off the chart (I have it at 15 PPD/MHz).

[[XC] mysticmerlin]

Core Duo (no idea what is was coded) T7400 @ 2.16 (2 threads) | OS X 10.5.8 Boinc 6.2.18 | 0:013:18:51:21 39,802 83 Sit's running free 23 hours a day
Dual Woodcrest 5110 @ 3.0 (4 threads) | OS X 10.5.8 Boinc 6.2.18 | 0:079:05:06:52 310,069 575 Daily user but always running boinc

[Blauhung]

Great work Vapor, I'll get ya Gulftown single socket data and Lynnfield w/ HT by the end of the week

[Vapor]

Updated again with mysticmerlin's numbers (good to see OS X still rocking out and doing so well, brings back some fond and not-so-fond memories of my Q6600 hackintosh)

Looking forward to the Gulftown and Lynnfield numbers (though Lynnfield should be within spitting distance of Bloomfield I'd think). I might be able to get some Thuban numbers by the end of the week, will be interesting to see if it can match Lynnfield without HT And for that matter, I think Clarkdale might be able to keep up with Deneb X4, clock-for-clock