Need some advice.

[tarheel112]

am new to water cooling and need some advice. I currently have a fairly nice system but am not happy with the temps. They are as follows.
Gigabyte x58-ud5 mobo
core 17 980x @4.28
megahalems cpu cooler with coolermaster 90 cfm push pull
12gb ocz platinum ddr3 1600
2 5870 in crossfire
wd black 2tb and 1tb
corsair 1k psu
blue ray burner and blue ray rom
atcs 840

My temps idle around 30-38c and load can reach 70c.
I contacted Dangerden about parts and here is what the reccomended.
MC TDX i7 CPU block
2 DD-5870 GPU blocks
1 CrossSLI fitting package
DDC 3.25 12v pump
Black Ice SR1 360mm Radiator
DD Single Bay reservoir
One 90 Degree Rotary fitting for the bottom GPU, this will help point the tubing out away from the PSU
8 Feet of DD/TFC 3/8" tubing
Bottle of Feser One Fluid
ATX PSU bypass adapter

This would create one loop and they said that was enough to cool my system and oc more. I would like everything to have compression fittings vs the clips. Just looks better. I also was looking at a EK supreme hf for the cpu block vs the dangerden. I am also considering one 360 and one 240 but not sure if I would need 2 separate loops or if I could just run from res-pump-cpu-northbridge-360rad-5870-5870-240 rad-res.

[tarheel112]

bump.

[NKrader]

1. get the ek cpu block
2. think about running dual loops i personally would with all that.. but im running a qx6700 with mobo blocks on a 480mm rad so
3. dont use the feser coolant.. please.. use distilled water and silvercoil or PTnuke

[tarheel112]

1. get the ek cpu block
2. think about running dual loops i personally would with all that.. but im running a qx6700 with mobo blocks on a 480mm rad so
3. dont use the feser coolant.. please.. use distilled water and silvercoil or PTnuke

What do you use as a die then? Will that affect it like the feser does?

[ascl]

You are better off using coloured tubing rather than dye. Less chance of the dye gunking up your blocks.

[tarheel112]

Ok so with 2 loops I would need 2 pumps and 2 res, and 2 rads correct?

[ascl]

correct.

EDIT: Actually you technically don't need a res in either loop.

[tarheel112]

Ok as far as colored tubing what would be good. Looking for a transparent blue or purple. I have been advised by a buddy to get 1/2 instead of 3/8 tubing. What say you?

[Waterlogged]

Ok as far as colored tubing what would be good. Looking for a transparent blue or purple. I have been advised by a buddy to get 1/2 instead of 3/8 tubing. What say you?

If it was for "better flow = better temps" Cathar busted that myth a while ago.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=147767

[ascl]

Go for smaller tubing, it will make routing it much easier, and, as waterlogged said, the performance difference is small.

[tarheel112]

So 3/8 or should one go smaller? What is a good colored tubing in the best size?
?

[Waterlogged]

3/8" x 5/8" will be fine.

[tarheel112]

Next question is do I need refrence design or non for my xfx 5870's?

[tarheel112]

Re did everything over at frozencpu.com and it was a bit over what I wanted. But here is a revised list fo you to look over.
Product Description Qty Price Total
ex-pmp-84

Danger Den / Laing DDC Rev. 3.25 Liquid Cooling Pump - (12 Volt -18 Watt)

Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 3/8 x 5/8 Compression Fittings-Black ($17.90)
Sleeve The Cable(s): Yes (Select Sleeve Color Next) ($5.99)
Select Your Cable Sleeve Color: Black
Select Your Heatshrink Color: Black
$106.84 $213.68
ex-blc-477

EK Supreme HF Universal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Plexi (Sockets 775/1156/1366/939/940/754/AM2/AM2+/AM3)

Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 3/8 x 5/8 Compression Fittings-Black ($17.90)
$89.85 $89.85
ex-blc-578

EK CPU Backplate for Socket LGA 1366 $7.99 $7.99
ex-rad-163

Black Ice SR1 Low Air Flow Optimized - 360 Radiator - Black

Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 3/8 x 5/8 Compression Fittings-Black ($17.90)
$149.85 $149.85
ex-rad-162

Black Ice SR1 Low Air Flow Optimized - 240 Radiator - Black

Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 3/8 x 5/8 Compression Fittings-Black ($17.90)
$123.85 $123.85
ex-blc-686

Danger Den DD-5870 ATI 5870 VGA Liquid Cooling Block (GPU-6897)

Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 3/8 x 5/8 Compression Fittings-Black ($17.90)
$117.85 $117.85
ex-blc-686

Danger Den DD-5870 ATI 5870 VGA Liquid Cooling Block (GPU-6897) $99.95 $99.95
ex-tub-676

Bitspower G1/4 Thread 90-Degree Rotary 3/8" ID x 5/8" OD Compression Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MB90R2LCPF-CC3) $17.99 $17.99
ex-tub-669

Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Crystal Link Tube Set - 2 Slot Spacing (BP-CLTAC-S2)

Select Optional Multi-Link Adapters - Pair: Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black ($9.99)
$14.98 $14.98
ex-tub-670

Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Crystal Link Tube Set - 3 Slot Spacing (BP-CLTAC-S3)

Select Optional Multi-Link Adapters - Pair: Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black ($9.99)
$14.98 $14.98
ex-blc-721

EK Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Northbridge / Southbridge / Mosfet Liquid Cooling Blocks - Nickel - (EK-FB KIT GA X58 (UD7) - Nickel) $142.95 $142.95
ex-tub-604

Bitspower Ultimate G 1/4 Thread 3/8" ID x 5/8" OD Compression Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBCPF-CC3) $8.95 $35.80
ex-res-137

XSPC 5.25" Bay Acrylic Reservoir - UV Blue

Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 3/8 x 5/8 Compression Fittings-Black ($17.90)
$62.89 $125.78
ex-tub-190

PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 3/8"ID 5/8" OD with 1/8" Wall - UV Blue 15feet 33.75

Total is 1,189.25. Really wanted to stick under 700.00, but guess it is not possible for the system I have.

[ascl]

If you switch to swiftech rads you will save a large chunk of coin, and only lose a tiny bit of performance (in fact at 1400 rpm it looks like swiftech beats the sr1, other rpms its very close).

Check here for a comparison:
http://www.skinneelabs.com/triplesv2.html?page=4

You could also skip the UD7 block... the UD7 has a 3/8" block on it already. Its probably not as good as the EK one, but should be good enough.

EDIT: Doesn't the EK HF come with a back plate?

[tarheel112]

If you switch to swiftech rads you will save a large chunk of coin, and only lose a tiny bit of performance (in fact at 1400 rpm it looks like swiftech beats the sr1, other rpms its very close).

Check here for a comparison:
http://www.skinneelabs.com/triplesv2.html?page=4

You could also skip the UD7 block... the UD7 has a 3/8" block on it already. Its probably not as good as the EK one, but should be good enough.

EDIT: Doesn't the EK HF come with a back plate?

I have the ud5 so I am in need of a block for the chipset. From all the pictures I have seen the ud5 and ud7 layout are pretty much identical.
How large are the swiftec rads in thickness. I am trying to keep them as thin as I can and get good performance. If needed I could use a high airflow rad.

[ascl]

Ooh, I'd be very careful with using a ud7 block on ud5. They would need to be exactly the same, please check with someone (the manufacturer should have a compatibility list?) before purchasing, just checking on a photo is not going to be exact enough I think.

Swiftech rads are pretty thin, 34mm I think. Much thinner than the SR1 which is 55mm I think? Yet they have very near performance to thicker rads and are much cheaper.... and no I don't work for them

[tarheel112]

Ok the swiftecs would be fine. Will a 3x120 and 2x120 be sufficient? I would be running cpu and chipset off the 3x120 and the 2 vid cards off the 2x120.

[ascl]

Your GPUs might get a bit warm, depending on fan speed, but its probably still going to be better than air cooling them!

[Church]

If 2 gpus are 5870, then 120.2 imho will be enough. Not enough for silent cooling of two gpus like 5970/gtx480 with doubled heat dissipation though.