***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[skuldarin]

i have not yet. if i start getting instability again when testing higher amounts of mem then i'll give it a go. right now i'm getting the best stability with +1/+1 at 66-67-68 with +3 rTL's

EDIT: on another note, i've come to find from multiple sources that the reason why gulfy chips have such out of control temps is due to intel using rather trashy sensors in their 32nm chips in general.

i was scared about some of the temps i was seeing, but they were always on the same cores. first i tried relating the cores to the physical position on the CPU but 1 out of the 2 cores that read REALLY hot is on the outside and the other near the dead center of the chip. because of this, i've learned to have a better trust in HWmonitor's and PC Probe's temps, among others aswell, over RealTemp GT as RealTemp GT is only giving what it sees from these trashy sensors. because of this i've been doing 1 of 2 things, 1 - the method earlier stated of looking at the highest temp and taking 80% of that as your average of a sort and 2 - adding the temp of all cores in RealTemp GT and getting an average between all 6 cores. either way i go about it, temp ranges from 82-88*c at full load at 4.5ghz. this temp range is also including the hours of stress testing which heat soaks my water system as it's a full single loop between cpu, full MOBO and a dual chiped VGA card. because of this i do need to periodically let the soak cool out over about 10 mins to get back to normal levels otherwise i start getting that higher 88*c average after a good few hours of none stop burn tests.

i really need to isolate my cpu with a second loop >.<

[MagisD]

Or add more rads.

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[Cookiesowns]

Hmm, COME on asus! evga even released the microcode update already, how about you??

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=932958

[tomovk]

Hi guys!

I was working on my 990x OC, and i got to the point where i am stable on 4.5ghz, 1.375v in bios, 1.363v in idle (cpu-z), and 1.330v in load (cpu-z), but im only stable in prime95 small fft. when i do blend, it is reporting errors, never BSODs. I flashed to bios 0003, and i can modify tRL values now, but i dont know where to start. whatever i try, i gate errors. i have g skill trident 2000mhz 9-9-9-24 kit, and i run it at 1804 with uncore of 3608. PLEASE HELP. I tried raising qpi/dram voltage and ram voltage, no use. temps dont get above 72c.

[Andreezy]

=donmarkoni;4794150
I'll join you guys in quest for solving that problem, as soon as I get my board back, if you don't solve it in the meantime, which I hope you will.

i think i solved the problem with Gulftown (i7 970) and the issue with GFLOPS in LinX being low when tuning with 12GB of Memory.
i am so tired though, testing 12Gb is time consuming.

what i did was i set the ram to uncore 2x.
so i set the ram to about 1600mhz and the uncore @3200mhz (2x) like bloomfield and my gflops went above 80gflps now when selecting all memory setting under LinX.

please can GT owners having same problems try and confirm this.

[BobyTT]

Will do with next reboot.

[skuldarin]

Or add more rads.

i use a MORA3 Pro 9x120. it takes care of heat VERY nicely... much more effectivelly than my 4x120 double thickness did. i have my fans set to 900rpm though aswell, just might not be enough air flow going through. it's just a really big loop and all the added heat from PWM's, voltage regulators, notrh south chipsets and a dual GPU VGA going on at once, it's alot of soak heat. i just need to isolate my CPU to it's self. it doesn't help that my 5970 is sitting at 1ghz core and 1300 mem now on 1.225 volt daily... that's soaking too.

Hi guys!

I was working on my 990x OC, and i got to the point where i am stable on 4.5ghz, 1.375v in bios, 1.363v in idle (cpu-z), and 1.330v in load (cpu-z), but im only stable in prime95 small fft. when i do blend, it is reporting errors, never BSODs. I flashed to bios 0003, and i can modify tRL values now, but i dont know where to start. whatever i try, i gate errors. i have g skill trident 2000mhz 9-9-9-24 kit, and i run it at 1804 with uncore of 3608. PLEASE HELP. I tried raising qpi/dram voltage and ram voltage, no use. temps dont get above 72c.

start out around 57-58 range. do 57-59-60 and try that out. i'm guessing you're using 3 sticks so you may be able to go lower around 53-55-56. that +2/+1 thing does help alot with getting it stable.

i was running +1/+1 for my rTL's and it was fine for a while but started BSOD'ing on me in games after a while. so i put it to +2/+1 to 60-62-63 for 1866 / 6 sticks at 12gigs and 7-9-7-24-72 1T and it's been workin like a charm for almost a full day now.

[BobyTT]

Andreezy Well i didn't overclock to your speeds, i just run it on my 24/7 settings. But it look much better then before.

[spoolindsm127]

start out around 57-58 range. do 57-59-60 and try that out. i'm guessing you're using 3 sticks so you may be able to go lower around 53-55-56. that +2/+1 thing does help alot with getting it stable.

i was running +1/+1 for my rTL's and it was fine for a while but started BSOD'ing on me in games after a while. so i put it to +2/+1 to 60-62-63 for 1866 / 6 sticks at 12gigs and 7-9-7-24-72 1T and it's been workin like a charm for almost a full day now.

Glad you're running stable now . It took a lot of trial and error to figure out that +2/+1 is the best setting for RTLs. Hope it helps others who've been having mem problems.

I also took your suggestion and tried bios 0003. Like you said I am needing more vcore than bios 1207.

However my temps have not improved. Seems the same as 1207 for the most part. Could it have to do with the fact your gulf has different temp sensors?

BTW interesting info you posted regarding gulf temp sensors I was not aware of that.

[CryptiK]

Vantage at low voltage 24/7 settings:

[Sanousie]

Anyone have a link for the 0003 bios? i tried searching it on the asus website and no go.

Google didnt bring back anything.

Everyone is talking about this 0003 bios but i do a thread search and i cant find the download link, i must have crap searching skills lols

EDIT: found it http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=4375

If anyone is looking for it.

[BobyTT]

@CryptiK i have the same voltage for 4005MHz how much memory do you have?

[skuldarin]

Glad you're running stable now . It took a lot of trial and error to figure out that +2/+1 is the best setting for RTLs. Hope it helps others who've been having mem problems.

I also took your suggestion and tried bios 0003. Like you said I am needing more vcore than bios 1207.

However my temps have not improved. Seems the same as 1207 for the most part. Could it have to do with the fact your gulf has different temp sensors?

BTW interesting info you posted regarding gulf temp sensors I was not aware of that.

could be different sensors... could be by setting too i'm not sure.


on a lighter note, i pulled a couple sticks out to just run 6gig. i got 2005mhz @ 7-9-7-24-72 / 57-59-60 +2 w/ 1.7v dram to post. so i got gutsy... i'm tryin for 2133! i got it to post at 10-10-10, i want to get it to atleast stock 9-9-9 but it's being a pain for sure.

[spoolindsm127]

could be different sensors... could be by setting too i'm not sure.


on a lighter note, i pulled a couple sticks out to just run 6gig. i got 2005mhz @ 7-9-7-24-72 / 57-59-60 +2 w/ 1.7v dram to post. so i got gutsy... i'm tryin for 2133! i got it to post at 10-10-10, i want to get it to atleast stock 9-9-9 but it's being a pain for sure.

It may be that your memory needs more voltage. I say you try 9-10-9 and see if you can get that to post or pass 32M.

Are you getting a BSOD when trying 9-9-9 or no post at all? How about your VTT? Since increased memory bandwidth also simultaneously increases Uncore speed you may be needing more VTT voltage.

On a side note this is a BSOD Error list that I found in a i7 overclocking guide which I have been using. I have found it very useful.

Q: Is there a list of BSODs and what I should do?

A: Thanks to Hammer=GOM= there is. He also provided a helpful link to software which will help you see what error code was displayed:
BSOD viewer:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
BSOD codes:
BSOD codes for overclocking
0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT...have to test to see which one it is
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)

Only thing I want to add is that BSOD 124 for me is always in relation to Vcore and not VTT. Previoulsy I had also thought error 101 was for vcore and 124 for QPI. That has not been the case though in my situation.

[skuldarin]

i'm still workin on it... i got it to post with 2000mhz before but now it keeps just hanging on bios. wording comes up on the bottom but the image doesn't show. i'm thinkin my VTT is too low.

currently at 167x27 for 2009mhz mem 4.5 cpu. VTT is 1.33125, uncore at 3505.

timings of 7-9-7-24-72 1T (57,59,60 [+3]) with dram at 1.76v though i know it'll do 1.74 since it did it the first time around i just don't remember what my VTT was... i might have set it out of habit from what i had it at with 12gig.

[CryptiK]

@CryptiK i have the same voltage for 4005MHz how much memory do you have?

That's idle vcore and I use 50% calibration, which gives 1.184v under load. I'm running 6GB of ram at the moment.

[skuldarin]

alright... so after about 6 hours of toying around with it i am 100% positivey convinced that i may just have a crappy chipset on my RE3 which isn't unheard of.

i've tried 6 sticks = 12gigs
i've tried 3 stick = 6gigs
2 sticks...
and 1 stick...

i've tried different dram slots and different configurations. my specific RE3... will... not... take... more than 1866mhz on memory period. i've tested both my dominators and my G.Skills of which are the 1600mhz CL7 ones that have the super low 1.3v requirements. my RE3 will not take the 2000mhz or more. i get it to boot once, and then when i restart the system, bios will hang... every... time... and will continue to do so unless i force shutdown, start up and then it tells me overclock failed even though on the first try on just about every setting i use, it boots to windows and runs fine until i restart or shutdown... then it starts all over again so... 1866 it is until i replace this motherboard. no one should spend $300 on a motherboard and recieve the maturity of a 4 year old out of it... nuff said...

EDIT: yep see... i put all 6 stick back in and put it on the 1T timings i mentioned above and it's perfectly fine... and on 4.5ghz at 1866.

[tomovk]

I ll give it a try, the RTL values, but what about tRL values? I flashed to 0003 bios so i can set them, but where should i begin with them? they can be set for channel A, B and C, do i need to change them for all channels to the same value, or? go to + or - values? I just dont get it. I have 6gb of memory, yes, but i run it at 1804mhz, uncore 3608, gives me ok performance, cpu at 4.5ghz 180x25 (it would be better to use 2005mhz and 4008 uncore, but i doubt that will ever happen). I can run Prime95 small fft for hours,and games work perfectly, but blend is not working more than 2 minutes. I assumed that my cpu is stable at those voltages, and that the problem is something else (probably the memory), am I wrong? I feel like im playing bingo with this thing...it even happened to me once that i was running blend stable for like 2 hours, shut down, and in the morning, started the pc and again not stable for blend. I dont get BSODs, i get rounding errors.

[CryptiK]

3DMark 06 @ 4.50 GHz @ 1.330v



3DMark Vantage @ 4.50 GHz @ 1.330v




SPI32M @ 4.66 GHz @ 1.330v

[skuldarin]

I ll give it a try, the RTL values, but what about tRL values? I flashed to 0003 bios so i can set them, but where should i begin with them? they can be set for channel A, B and C, do i need to change them for all channels to the same value, or? go to + or - values? I just dont get it. I have 6gb of memory, yes, but i run it at 1804mhz, uncore 3608, gives me ok performance, cpu at 4.5ghz 180x25 (it would be better to use 2005mhz and 4008 uncore, but i doubt that will ever happen). I can run Prime95 small fft for hours,and games work perfectly, but blend is not working more than 2 minutes. I assumed that my cpu is stable at those voltages, and that the problem is something else (probably the memory), am I wrong? I feel like im playing bingo with this thing...it even happened to me once that i was running blend stable for like 2 hours, shut down, and in the morning, started the pc and again not stable for blend. I dont get BSODs, i get rounding errors.

you'd got RTL's and tRL's, RTL is the one i was suggesting the +2/+1 of 57-59-60 (IE, it's +2 between 57 and 59 and +1 between 59 and 60.). tRL's are the ones just below for each channel. i haven't toyed with them much to really know for sure, but keep them all with the same setting. + adds delay, - reduces delay (i think). so far i've been keeping mine between +2 and +4.

@ Cryptik - any idea as to why the 990's get such higher clockings on dramatically lower voltages over the 980's? temps too seem to be even lower even though it's technically the same chip...

[Andreezy]

Andreezy Well i didn't overclock to your speeds, i just run it on my 24/7 settings. But it look much better then before.

hey bobby, that looks very good there
now we know, we must uncore 2x on GT even though it can do
1.5x mem uncore.

[zoson]

hey bobby, that looks very good there
now we know, we must uncore 2x on GT even though it can do
1.5x mem uncore.

:'( It didn't work for me...

[Andreezy]

:'( It didn't work for me...

zoson, i have a set of 12GB 2000MHZ Patriot ram i just got
you will have to run your ram @ 2000MHZ and uncore @ 2x.
soon as i get home i will start testing my 2000mhz 12gb kit.

[CryptiK]

@ Cryptik - any idea as to why the 990's get such higher clockings on dramatically lower voltages over the 980's? temps too seem to be even lower even though it's technically the same chip...

Some aren't so great, but binning I'd guess would be the reason if there is a trend of the 990X's clocking better. I haven't seen enough data to say for sure they do. The late batch 980X's were awesome too.

[Mydog]

You have a good chip there Cryptik, just a little better than my 980x that does 4,5 GHz LinX, Vantage and folding stable at 1,38 vcore.
My only issue is my G.skill 2k CL6 sticks, the board will not even post with them. I've tried them on three other MB(R2E, P6T7 and SR-2) and they run without any problems.

Weird how hardware sometimes will not work together even tho it should.