which top for a ddc

**dud3man** · 03-30-2010, 07:04 PM

ive been planing to water cool my 440x3 with a apogee gt with a mcr120, and im going to be using a ddc-1/mcp350 and have been looking for the best top to go with.

**bundymania** · 03-30-2010, 07:59 PM

I´ve made a big roundup with Laing tops some month ago, just have a look and check the flowrate results (or use an translator

)

http://www.highflow.nl/forum/f18/rev...s-tested-4268/

If you´re in the market for the quietest top, i would recommend the top from Zern, Koolance, or XSPC !

**Slowb00st** · 03-31-2010, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by dud3man

ive been planing to water cool my 440x3 with a apogee gt with a mcr120, and im going to be using a ddc-1/mcp350 and have been looking for the best top to go with.

http://martin.skinneelabs.com/DDC31PumpTopTesting.html

**H2O** · 03-31-2010, 07:54 AM

Personally, I am a big fan of the EK and XSPC tops.

**skinnee** · 03-31-2010, 08:02 AM

My DDC reviews have been delayed... but for good reason, more tops arrived and will be included in the round-up and yes dual DDC3.25's are included. Testing resumes later this week.

**NKrader** · 03-31-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by skinnee

My DDC reviews have been delayed... but for good reason, more tops arrived and will be included in the round-up and yes dual DDC3.25's are included. Testing resumes later this week.

gaww.. not to belittle your tests oor anything skinneee i love you.

but realisticly.. with how close all of the mid to high priced water cooling products now there really isnt that much of a differance bettween most things.. 1c-2c-3c.. +1 to headpressure.. +.5gph is that really that big of differance?

you could pick by looks alone and still get a really good cooling system now as most of the products are fighting for the "best" temps and they make their products and test against the others in house?

again im not talking crap. and i love your tests

they are legit as I love having the lowest possible temps cuz im one of those people who buy they best just to have it.. lol. im just a hypocrite..

**seeka12** · 03-31-2010, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by skinnee

My DDC reviews have been delayed... but for good reason, more tops arrived and will be included in the round-up and yes dual DDC3.25's are included. Testing resumes later this week.

.....and the winner is,either the XSPC Dual or the EK top

and i think i am pretty sure on that

**Waterlogged** · 03-31-2010, 09:16 AM

I would choose the EK over XSPC. I know for certain that EK products are made on real CNC equipment. Looking at some of the XSPC top volutes a few ppl have questioned here, I'd have to say that they are probably made by some 12Y.O. Chinese kid with a router that's getting paid $.05/piece.

**Delirious** · 03-31-2010, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

I would choose the EK over XSPC. I know for certain that EK products are made on real CNC equipment. Looking at some of the XSPC top volutes a few ppl have questioned here, I'd have to say that they are probably made by some 12Y.O. Chinese kid with a router that's getting paid $.05/piece.

Being the owner of one of those XSPC tops I would have to agree with you.

**seeka12** · 03-31-2010, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

I would choose the EK over XSPC. I know for certain that EK products are made on real CNC equipment. Looking at some of the XSPC top volutes a few ppl have questioned here, I'd have to say that they are probably made by some 12Y.O. Chinese kid with a router that's getting paid $.05/piece.

i think that XSPC tops look like as if they are low quality,don't know does it look that only to me or anyone agree?

**H2O** · 03-31-2010, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by skinnee

My DDC reviews have been delayed... but for good reason, more tops arrived and will be included in the round-up and yes dual DDC3.25's are included. Testing resumes later this week.

Sounds great skinnee! I've been looking forward to your updated review.

**skinnee** · 03-31-2010, 09:46 AM

The EK tops are much better in visual quality; Permformance wise, the EK has the top end flow rate and higher flow PQ advantage where the XSPC tops produce more pressure at lower flow rates (quick chart to make sense of my statement).

note: see why I am including more tops, 3 tops is rather bland for charting and a comparison.

**woffen** · 03-31-2010, 09:58 AM

skinnee, what is a XSPC V3 DDC Reservoir top??

**justin.kerr** · 03-31-2010, 10:01 AM

will the dual tops be in the review also? please?

**Zigosity** · 03-31-2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by seeka12

i think that XSPC tops look like as if they are low quality,don't know does it look that only to me or anyone agree?

My first XSPC restop leaked after 3 months... They sent me a new one overnight and it's been fine since. Nothing wrong with them and great customer service if something does go wrong...

**skinnee** · 03-31-2010, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by woffen

skinnee, what is a XSPC V3 DDC Reservoir top??

XSPC modified the design of their tops last year, which was the 3rd version. For all retail purposes there is no versioning, just how I kept everything straight between the versions tested internally. Well, that and little sticker labels.

Originally Posted by justin.kerr

will the dual tops be in the review also? please?

Yup, several dual scenarios will be covered.

**woffen** · 03-31-2010, 10:07 AM

Did the versions with a reservoir change as well?

I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=515

**skinnee** · 03-31-2010, 10:10 AM

To my knowledge the res tops would've changed as well, yes. Probably depends on stock though. And the differences between versions were extremely small, within margin of error on my meters.

**woffen** · 03-31-2010, 10:15 AM

Ok, I was hoping they were coming out with a totally new top/res design.

Thank you kind sir for the great information once again

**seeka12** · 03-31-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Zigosity

My first XSPC restop leaked after 3 months... They sent me a new one overnight and it's been fine since. Nothing wrong with them and great customer service if something does go wrong...

well then i am wrong

but i feel like that EK is a more reputable company

**seeka12** · 03-31-2010, 10:29 AM

@Skinee:

you are really my hero,thanks for all the efforts you always do and thanks for taking time in testing products

**silverphoenix** · 03-31-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

I would choose the EK over XSPC. I know for certain that EK products are made on real CNC equipment. Looking at some of the XSPC top volutes a few ppl have questioned here, I'd have to say that they are probably made by some 12Y.O. Chinese kid with a router that's getting paid $.05/piece.

From owning both top's I'd agree the EK top has a higher quality but the XSPC isn't routed/cnc'ed or milled it looks like it is injection molded mostly, which is probably done for real cheap in China.

**dud3man** · 03-31-2010, 01:40 PM

ok so i should be go with this top?

**astrodanco** · 03-31-2010, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by dud3man

ok so i should be go with this top?

Sure, but I'd recommend this top along with TWO pumps for better flow.

**kgtiger** · 03-31-2010, 04:49 PM

Excellent to hear Skinnee.

I hope the Watercools dual top, that is the one with the inlet in the top, is in the shotout.
But I guess as I already have it

it doesn't really matter now.

Will be nice to see where it sits but.

All the best to y'a Skinnee.

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